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Lab Severs Ties With James Watson, Citing ‘Unsubstantiated and Reckless’ Remarks
New York Times ^ | January 11, 2019 | Amy Harmon

Posted on 01/12/2019 5:23:13 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: The Pack Knight
No one disputes that IQ is a mix of genetics and environment.

The question is "how much"? It appears that genetics is above 50% of the mix.

Genetics probably determines maximum IQ for an individual, and environment determines how close they come to reaching that level.

41 posted on 01/12/2019 6:47:17 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Being a Mensa member (as I have been) should teach you one thing, IQ is a measure of intelligence. It is not a measure of sanity, of decency or of common sense. It doesn’t measure initiative, nor determination.


42 posted on 01/12/2019 6:47:18 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: reaganaut1

The anti-science totalitarian fascists cannot allow anyone to question their religious dogma.


43 posted on 01/12/2019 6:51:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats decide only elections they win are valid.)
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To: _Jim
Mankind’s problems, at their heart, are moral and spiritual.

BINGO!

And, as noted above, these are two things an IQ test doesn't measure!

44 posted on 01/12/2019 6:56:57 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: null and void

IQ tests give a rough estimate of your ability to navigate and prosper in a Western civilization.

It may not give a rough estimate of your ability to navigate and prosper on the Serengeti plains, but if you are living in a Western civilization, survival on the Serengeti plains is not an issue you will probably have to deal with.

A good way to stretch your already prodigious virtue-signalling muscles would be to design an IQ test which gives a rough estimate of ability to navigate and prosper on the Serengeti plains so we can know who should be sent there.


45 posted on 01/12/2019 6:57:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats decide only elections they win are valid.)
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To: Altura Ct.
So science is bound by PC.

Always has been, ask Bruno or Galileo.

46 posted on 01/12/2019 6:58:57 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: knarf

“If we don’t play God, who will?”

-James Watson

The man is a moral monster who advocates aborting the gentically unfit. He may not directly hate the religious as individuals, but he hates the idea that religion would have any influence on society.


47 posted on 01/12/2019 7:00:54 AM PST by Lurker51
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To: outofsalt
Of course their dogma will be rebuffed when one points out that homosexuality ... [is] genetically based in any demonstrable way

Hard to imagine how a genetic trait can be passed on by a group that, by definition, doesn't reproduce...

...unless you're a liberal, then it makes perfect sense!

48 posted on 01/12/2019 7:03:18 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: Socon-Econ

Huckster and mooch at the same time. Break that glass ceiling.


49 posted on 01/12/2019 7:05:16 AM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia
Huckster and mooch at the same time. Break that glass ceiling. Strike. Wrong thread.
50 posted on 01/12/2019 7:06:06 AM PST by aspasia
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To: Fresh Wind

Same thought here. Dog races vary significantly in intellect. Some can herd sheep, others bark at their own shadow.

Truth is truth. Deal with it.


51 posted on 01/12/2019 7:07:26 AM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have a longish list of people I’d like to send to the Seregeti plains.

It simply never occurred to me to pre-test their ability to navigate and prosper on the Serengeti plains...


52 posted on 01/12/2019 7:07:45 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
This is a thread that, if continued long enough can only result in one of two ways ... there are intelligence differences attributable to genetics or there are not.

I dare say I'd be curious to know the absolute argument for equality besides what one thinks one thinks.

53 posted on 01/12/2019 7:08:01 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: outofsalt

Of course their dogma will be rebuffed when one points out that homosexuality (and it’s sortof sister, transgenderism) are not genetically based in any demonstrable way; it’s a choice.


Physiological reactions to one sex or the other are beyond the control of the individual. If you’re not turned on by some guy’s hairy back, you probably never will be. If physiological reactions are beyond conscious control, then where do the impulses come from? Genetics makes a lot more sense than environment or choice.


54 posted on 01/12/2019 7:13:50 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: null and void
IMHO, this would be a far more useful test than an IQ test:
Sociopath Tests of the Brain

The cluster of traits and behaviors displayed by a sociopath, the symptoms of a sociopath, happen to be associated with certain patterns of activity in the brain. Brain scans can test for sociopathy.

• Functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scans show that sociopaths don't have the same patterns in response to emotional stimuli (either verbal or visual) that non-sociopaths do (Babiak & Hare, 2006).
• Scans indicate that the brain of a sociopath shows the same response pattern for every stimulus while reaction patterns in a non-sociopath differ according to degree of emotion (Babiak & Hare, 2006).
• Electroencephalogram (EEG) waves record details about how the brain processes information, and here, too, the brain of a sociopath behaves differently (Kiehl, 2014).

How well would your favorite (or least favorite) politician score on such a test?

Should passing a test be a requirement for holding office?

55 posted on 01/12/2019 7:15:26 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: reaganaut1

Border Collies aren’t smarter than other breeds of dogs. They just dominate dog society, controlling the press releases. In a fair society, when reparations are paid to huskies, huskies will be recognized as being just as smart as border collies. It isn’t possible to have a genetic basis for intelligence.


56 posted on 01/12/2019 7:17:57 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: VanDeKoik

That’s true as well. Just because one group’s median might be higher than another in some regard does not mean all individuals of the former are higher than all individuals in the latter group. Someone made a comment about smart Jews in one of the posts above. That person has never been to a board meeting at my synagogue, I can promise you that.


57 posted on 01/12/2019 7:18:00 AM PST by babble-on
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To: reaganaut1

This is stupid. I am above average intelligence and I have known many blacks who are more intelligent than me.


58 posted on 01/12/2019 7:22:37 AM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: All
Could be, as Alexander Pope said, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Nobelists Crick left, Watson right---discoverers of the double helix.
It was Crick who postulated that newborns not be issued birth certificates until they've passed a "quality evaluation test."

59 posted on 01/12/2019 7:24:17 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
were it not for Harvard's affirmative action policy every Freshman class would be made up entirely of Asians and Jews.

Was she Asian or Jewish? LOL

Seriously, about 30% of the class might be legacy admissions and big donor family admissions.

60 posted on 01/12/2019 7:26:06 AM PST by ladyjane
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