Posted on 02/05/2019 2:57:54 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Submitting your DNA to anybody is the same as submitting it to CODIS.
And you paid with cash, and nobody has a store video of you buying the dna kit?
I received an email from Bennett Greenspan, the owner of FTDNA. He says that law enforcement agencies do not have access their databases. They can submit a DNA sample and when they do so they are treated in the same way as any other customer. FTDNA will respond to valid subpeonas and search warrants with the same information that is available to any other customer, in other words they can see their own sample but no others unless someone has granted permission.
The New York Times is likely lying.
Here’s what I don’t understand: people using this service choose to have their DNA searchable by every other user of the company’s service. So why should they complain if the FBI or anyone else signs up like a regular customer and obtains the same access as every other customer? What possible expectation of privacy could such a person have? The whole point of signing up is to obtain access to everyone else in exchange for providing access to yours. I don’t see what people are complaining about.
Use the family dog's DNA as a sample.
Depending on WHICH test the cops use, the false positive rate can be unacceptably high. The "one in a billion" test is the most expensive test, and even that is not "one in a billion" if there is more than one person's DNA in the test sample.
Most customers probably don't select the "do not share" options, and even if they do it's not certain that employees will honor them. This is potentially facebook on steroids.
Jewbacca wrote:
https://gizmodo.com/when-bad-dna-tests-lead-to-false-convictions-1797915655
Convicted then exonerated.
https://www.forensicmag.com/news/2015/02/dna-evidence-can-be-faked
Great, the solutions then is to ban all evidence in criminal trials. Who can prove that any form of evidence cannot be ‘faked’.
Well I would find a way to get a DNA sample from you, that's for sure. I'd have my HR person offer you a giant bottle of Dr. Pepper. Once you slurped it down I'd have the bottle recovered. If the ensuing DNA test showed you were a retardo I would just say thanks and goodbye.
If you want to get a probability that your family came from the Outer Hebrides you don’t necessarily want other customers to know everything about you. If you believe that you probably think facebook is great.
“led to the arrest “
The problem is when it leads to the arrest and conviction of someone innocent.
That has happened.
Gattaca.
Reminds of the story of the guy whose roommate put him on the hook for about 18 years supporting a kid by a woman he’d never met.
My brother and sister-in-law got these as a gift for every family member 2 years ago.
I looked at it, said oh hell no and handed the box back to them.
I didn’t even feign politeness. I basically said there’s a big stinky bit of flatulence in this box and you’re fools for ever doing it.
They looked at me funny and I know what was said when I left.
Funny how 11 years ago I was off of Facebook because I had that little bit of data farming was going to go. Know what the discussion about technology was around the dinner table this holiday season? Hmmm, the same thing I told them 11 years ago and was crazy then like they think I’m crazy now about home DNA registries.
Yawnnnn...if any of my cousins are murderers/rapist, I volunteer my DNA to out them.
If you are in the military or a veteran serving after 1991, they have your dna. If you are 50 or younger your dna was collected within a few hours of birth from a blood test, some states store it forever, some don’t.
If I have a relative that is a criminal, then I hope they get arrested.
fruser1 wrote: “The problem is when it leads to the arrest and conviction of someone innocent.”
It has also led to the acquittal of innocent persons.
All forms of evidence can be misused.
Should we ban all evidence?
several in the paper below that also explains the mathematics behind the problem.
Stop watching CSI.
There is no expectation of privacy. Your relatives’ DNA can be used to implicate you. You cannot stop your brother or sister or child from testing their DNA.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.