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FamilyTreeDNA Admits to Sharing Genetic Data With F.B.I.
New York Times ^ | 02/05/2018 | Matthew Haag

Posted on 02/05/2019 2:57:54 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The president of FamilyTreeDNA, one of the country’s largest at-home genetic testing companies, has apologized to its users for failing to disclose that it was sharing DNA data with federal investigators working to solve violent crimes.
In the booming business of consumer DNA testing and genealogy, FamilyTreeDNA had marketed itself as a leader of consumer privacy and a fierce protector of user data, refusing, unlike some of its competitors, to sell information to third parties.
But unbeknown to its users, the Houston-based firm quietly and voluntarily agreed in 2018 to open its database of more than two million records to the F.B.I. and examine DNA samples in its laboratory to identify suspects and victims of unsolved rapes and murders.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; fbi; nyt; policestate; science
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To solve rapes and murders? Sounds great, right? Not so fast. Suppose your 3rd cousin, that you didn't know existed, was accused of rape, police took a dna sample, and you got a dna kit as a birthday present. Yes, I think there are good people working for the FBI. But do you trust the FBI as an entity?
1 posted on 02/05/2019 2:57:54 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Too bad most folks don’t understand the concept of false positives and certainly not the mathematics of probability.

That “one in a billion” chance of a match to a crime scene is only the theoretical ideal.

Realities of testing and analysis can bring that down to about 1 in 10k or lower.


2 posted on 02/05/2019 3:00:59 PM PST by fruser1
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Family Branched Interests


3 posted on 02/05/2019 3:01:36 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: fruser1

One in a billion means there are nine or so perfect matches.


4 posted on 02/05/2019 3:03:36 PM PST by null and void (Adrenochrome. The Whore of Babylon, drunk on the blood of saints.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I knew this day would come.


5 posted on 02/05/2019 3:04:50 PM PST by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: null and void

Yes it does.

Unfortunately, there is never a perfect crime scene, sample, or comparison.


6 posted on 02/05/2019 3:06:58 PM PST by fruser1
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To: ASA Vet; sagar

ping!


7 posted on 02/05/2019 3:07:06 PM PST by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

And Google is an investor in 23andMe, which was founded by Sergey Brin’s wife. Big Data. Just think what it would be worth to a potential employer (or mate) to know everything there is that can be known by comparing your DNA with millions of others. Who is genetically predisposed to be an alcoholic? Or a workaholic?


8 posted on 02/05/2019 3:09:17 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas wrote: “To solve rapes and murders? Sounds great, right? Not so fast. Suppose your 3rd cousin, that you didn’t know existed, was accused of rape, police took a dna sample, and you got a dna kit as a birthday present. Yes, I think there are good people working for the FBI. But do you trust the FBI as an entity?”

Suppose your sister was the one raped...
Suppose the DNA samples led to the arrest of a serial killer.

Tradeoff, tradeoffs, tradeoffs.


9 posted on 02/05/2019 3:09:36 PM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: bigbob

What if eventually employers start to ask for DNA samples as a condition of employment?


10 posted on 02/05/2019 3:10:35 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: null and void

[ FamilyTreeDNA Admits to Sharing Genetic Data With F.B.I. ]

I for one, always think giving your DNA to strangers is a great idea.

What could possibly go wrong?


11 posted on 02/05/2019 3:10:43 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: DugwayDuke

Well said.


12 posted on 02/05/2019 3:13:06 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“What if eventually employers start to ask for DNA samples as a condition of employment?”

Start your own business. Problem solved.


13 posted on 02/05/2019 3:14:09 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yes, I think there are good people working for the FBI.

**************

Those “good people” do what they’re told to do, if they value their careers. Most people in the federal government have at one time or another seen corruption, malfeaseance and mismanagement but they keep their heads down and don’t say a thing.


14 posted on 02/05/2019 3:14:22 PM PST by Starboard
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To: DugwayDuke

“Suppose your sister was the one raped...
Suppose the DNA samples led to the arrest of a serial killer.
Tradeoff, tradeoffs, tradeoffs.”

Would you be singing about tradeoffs if you were the poor SOB locked up for something you absolutely didn’t do?


15 posted on 02/05/2019 3:16:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I’m tempted to do one of these test with someone else’s DNA as mine, just to get crap data into the system.

Also doing the test with my DNA under a fake name.


16 posted on 02/05/2019 3:17:15 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: DesertRhino

DesertRhino wrote: “Would you be singing about tradeoffs if you were the poor SOB locked up for something you absolutely didn’t do?”

Name a person falsely convicted based upon DNA.


17 posted on 02/05/2019 3:18:06 PM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: SaveFerris

“I for one, always think giving your DNA to strangers is a great idea. What could possibly go wrong?”

Child support?


18 posted on 02/05/2019 3:18:16 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: DugwayDuke

Catching a serial killer, in itself, is a good thing. The state knowing everything about everybody, not so much. After 9/11 the deep state got congress to authorize mass spying. And now they use it for political power.


19 posted on 02/05/2019 3:20:02 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: DugwayDuke

“Name a person falsely convicted based upon DNA.”

https://gizmodo.com/when-bad-dna-tests-lead-to-false-convictions-1797915655

https://www.forensicmag.com/news/2015/02/dna-evidence-can-be-faked


20 posted on 02/05/2019 3:22:34 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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