Posted on 02/27/2019 6:47:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Is rabidly far-left Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D.-Washington) trying to become the Ilhan Omar of the health care industry?
Sure looks like it, given her new Medicare-for-All proposal to be unveiled in the House as a new bill today. The "Medicare for All Act of 2019," put out by Jayapal, is so left-wing even the left-leaning Axios says it makes Bernie Sanders look like a piker. Here's how bad it is:
Even Sen. Bernie Sanders can get outflanked in the race to define Medicare for All as Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) is set to introduce a bill today that would go even further than Sanders' sweeping proposal.
Why it matters: Even as moderates and more conventional liberals are freaking out over the politics of such a dramatic upheaval, the left is still moving left, laying down ever-more-ambitious markers as they gain more and more influence over their party.
What we don’t know: The cost.
Axios also notes that the bill seeks to keep costs under control through a "global budget," meaning a cap on how much money hospitals and nursing care facilities can get, which is a fancy way of saying: rationing. They call that "interesting." The rest of us call it "Venezuela."
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With the caveat that I'm not sure New Monetary Theory is wrong, you are basically correct.
We are going Left, very far Left, very soon, and the healthcare "system" is the reason.
The question should be: If they went back to just part A, would what we pay in premiums while we work cover the costs?
:: Jayapal resembles an older Rashida Tlaib. ::
And both DEFINE the phrase, “Rode hard, put-up wet.”
Trump just needs to pound it into everyones head that the GOVERNMENT will decide what care you will or wont get, AND remind EVERYONE how willing they are to kill full term ALIVE babies!!!
Neither approach works. The only approach that works is people paying their own way, thus increasing the demand for low-cost alternatives. How often do you encounter people who don’t use a cheaper alternative because something more expensive is pricey? How often does a doctor tell an overweight person that they’re going to have to get in shape or pay for their own Diabetes medications? (etc)
We have to stop electing foreigners.....
He also NEEDS to remind everyone how GREAT the VA care was!!! /s
This is exactly what happened to the cost of college tuition once the government took over student loans, the cost EXPLODED the exact same thing will happen with premiums for their healthcare!!!
I’m not familiar with New Monetary Theory but I think it means that debt is irrelevant and we can run the printing presses flat out and keep on spending.
I think I largely align with that view. Mainly because we’re the reserve currency, and the rest of the world has little choice as when we get a cold they’ll get bubonic plague. Without gold or silver backing money is nothing but a Jedi Mind Trick anyhow. Clearly Republicans in Congress have been behaving as if they subscribe to this view.
Thus I concur, we’re going to start moving Left very quickly within the next decade.
Not our job.
We don't sell insurance and we don't pay their bills.
For all this, my doctor of the past 35 years won't see me any more. He gets paid $85 for a visit that previously paid thousands. I don't blame him.
You mean to send hospitals back to their status of 50 years ago when they ran as public service and not profit centers?
What a concept.
I’ve been a Computer Engineering contractor for nearly 20 years, during that entire time, I never had health insurance from an Employer....My wife was an sole practioner Attorney, she also never had health insurance from an Employer because she was the Employer.....
Decoupling Insurance from Employment would be a good thing for a huge majority of people but going to Single Payer would be the biggest mistake every...
Generally speaking you don’t file an insurance claim to get routine maintenance on your car, you only file a claim is something major happen, like a wreck, etc...
Health Insurance some be based on a similar concept...but people want low deductible low copay plans so they don’t have to think about or be concerned about cost versus results....
The solution we’ve used for 20 years was a High Deductible Policy, currently at $5000/year combined with a Health Savings Account that earns interest and rolls over year after year tax free.....
4 years ago I had hip replacement surgery, I paid the $5000 upfront from the HSA account and never saw a bill after that......
I take one prescription medication for high blood pressure, I have never paid more than $5/month and many years it’s been free....because of the prescription plan negotiated by the insurance company who I have my plan with.......
Thought that was some new “PayPal” thing out of Japan.
Medicare for all = socialist system
Current 3rd party payer system = fascist system much like feudal mercantile system (ie royal oligopolies)
Free market system = real indemnity insurance and self pay. Limited state government regulation.
“Medicare for All would be this mess without the middleman.”
The government is the new middle man (they could use “insurance” company contractors for administration of benefits). Medicare for all is of source even worse than the current fascist/corporatist system. The yearly costs of such a system would consume the entire yearly tax receipts even assuming substantial reductions in provider payments of 40%.
But, at some level the institution of such a horrible government plan would have the advantage of collapsing the current bad healthcare system. That would be bad in the short run as hospitals fail and providers leave in droves. But soon after, a fee for service system would emerge out of necessity that would be difficult for the government to suppress.
Uh, yes - that's the general idea ;-).
It's probably too late, there is too much money flowing to Congress through the hospitals, which collude with the "insurance" companies to maximize excess of payments over costs while retaining "nonprofit" status.
I've been sending doctor bills since 1982, and "self pay" means "no pay".
If you practice in an upscale area in South Florida or around the beltway, this is perhaps viable.
Most fail, and most practicing physicians do not have the capital necessary to initialize with the enormous risk of failure.
“What we have is collusion between insurance companies, pharmaceutical, and providers to keep prices high.”
You forgot the biggest colluders of all: the politicians that make it all possible.
The Medicare system is a vendor’s dream, once you overcome the hurdles (lawyers and money) required to become an approved Medicare vendor. They over pay what the open market charges for Durable Medical Equipment (DME) by a factor of 2-4X. Essentially, you make pennies on the item, and the balance on processing the paperwork. It’s insane.
Waiting 90+ days for payment is the downside, but the fat to cover that is built into the game.
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