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Pentagon lays out $6.8 billion of projects to cut for Trump border wall
The Washington Times ^ | March 18, 2019 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/18/2019 5:43:40 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: 21twelve

WWII is over. The west won. Why are we still there? Why do we have any soldiers in Europe? Why are they around the world? Why can’t we bring them home?


41 posted on 03/18/2019 8:50:09 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: TexasGunLover

I don’t know where you are getting your
info from, but it is incorrect.

This is just one part that was recently
completed.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-new-wall-in-new-mexico-is-real-and-its-20-miles-long


42 posted on 03/18/2019 9:47:22 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: 21twelve; TexasGunLover
The primary barrier in San Diego around the place where Trump's prototypes were built - easy to hop over and back.

After President Trump had them replaced:

Steel bollards strong enough to stop a speeding dump truck, tall enough to break bones in a fall, and set in reinforced concrete foundations at least two feet thick and six feet deep.

43 posted on 03/18/2019 10:04:02 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: wastedyears

WWII is over. The west won. Why are we still there? Why do we have any soldiers in Europe? Why are they around the world? Why can’t we bring them home?


We only need a military the size of Canada’s, in case we are invaded; we don’t need all those planes and ships - selling them would generate a lot of revenue; we don’t need all those vehicles - jeeps, APCs, tanks, etc, the troops can just run around their play areas pretending like in the Clinton era; this proposal makes sense since it is a well-known axiom that the there is a gun behind every blade of grass ...


44 posted on 03/19/2019 1:34:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: TexasGunLover

Not yet. From the article it appears the construction will be started and ongoing this year


45 posted on 03/19/2019 1:47:08 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Trump wanted 5.7. Guess he’s got it but let’s cut the crap. will it work?

Define "work".

Until we get serious about promptly deporting illegal aliens of all sorts, until we get serious about cutting off all government benefits to illegal aliens of all sorts, we will have a serious illegal alien problem.

46 posted on 03/19/2019 2:24:54 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: A strike; BeauBo; All

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It is a border wall for the protection of the sovereign territory of the United States.
>

Bull-squeeze. You want to protect the sovereignty of the U.S. you can do it better, cheaper and Constitutionally:

- Terminate the welfare State. (from schools to hospitals to....pay as service is provided BY those utilizing said service).
- Enforce the EXISTING Law(s): start w/ govt employees (Fed & State) vs. aiding\comfort, abetting, harboring, etc. THEN you can go after the ‘little fish’ (employers, as if it were THEIR job to ensure govt did its properly).
- Data mine. IRS can’t noodle 20+ checks going to the same address, terminate the lot and outsource the work

No carrot & REAL enforcement = dry up the pipeline. Don’t try to sell a (partial) wall as a ‘solution’ when the root causes continue to fail to be resolved.


47 posted on 03/19/2019 5:00:37 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
Anything for the “advancement of muslim......” is instant cut.

Unless the word that follows is "repatriation."

48 posted on 03/19/2019 5:07:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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To: Lean-Right
This is just one part that was recently completed.

Actually, you're incorrect. The border agency confirms no new wall. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811259/Trumps-border-agency-admits-built-ZERO-new-walls.html
49 posted on 03/19/2019 5:21:32 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: BeauBo
...and then up to $3.6 billion more in military construction money.

My question is what doesn't get built due to the fact that Congress won't do it's job and the Pentagon is forced to shift funds from military projects?

50 posted on 03/19/2019 5:27:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: BeauBo

With this entire funding battle the one thought always pops into my mind...how can any democrat be against government spending?


51 posted on 03/19/2019 5:53:04 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Trump wanted 5.7. Guess he’s got it but let’s cut the crap. will it work?”

He asked for 5.7 to do 234 specific miles of barrier. Congress appropriated about 1.4 to do 55 miles. If the President does spend everything he identified in the emergency declaration, that would be about $8 billion to do about 300-400 miles.

The Trump program prioritizes the segments that have the highest traffic first - the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas, and the cities along the border.

The bottom line is that $8 billion is enough money to button up the Rio Grande Valley and the border cities, where more than 3/4 of traffic now passes. It would be a big change, but not complete operational control of the border. It would be such a big change though, that Democrats are jumping on grenades to prevent it.

Those miles are the most important to traffic, but also the most difficult and expensive to build (lots of private property, and flood control requires massive FEMA hurricane certified levee as the foundation). After that, everything else is much cheaper, faster and easier to build. As such, this year’s contracting effort is really the main fight in getting an effective wall built.

The total plan, which the President directed by Executive Order his first week in office (delivered to Congress in March of 2018), called for $25 billion over 5 years, to build 1,100 miles of barrier, hire thousands more Border Patrol, ICE and immigration judge teams; and several technology programs. That is what would work for complete operational control of the Southern border. Immigration law and incentives have to change as well to effectively control immigration.

If the Administration can get all of this year’s $8 billion on contract, and get the $8.6 he is requesting for next year (which will be another blood bath), they would be able to contract the whole 1,100 planned miles (construction would likely take a couple more years to complete).

Without much fanfare, technology is already starting to roll out (some is included with each mile of new barrier, others are separate programs). After a surge in judge hiring, that is now drying up, and the hiring of Border Patrol and ICE fell far short of goals.

The long pole in the tent though, is closing the asylum and child loopholes, which are big enough to drive a caravan through. Democrats will never allow it while they hold the House.


52 posted on 03/19/2019 5:58:21 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Defense has a budget of close to $700 Billion. What is $6.8 Billion? About 0.97%?

0.97% of the defense budget to defend our southern border?

Sounds like a good DEFENSE spending plan to me.


53 posted on 03/19/2019 6:47:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: BeauBo

It’s a start . . . a good one.


54 posted on 03/19/2019 8:56:59 AM PDT by rhubarbk (Wax my ass scrub my balls -- Beto 2020)
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To: PIF

So we should be looking forward for the next military action?


55 posted on 03/19/2019 10:02:38 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: TexasGunLover

Actually you are about 2 years behind.
From your link:
“A spokesman said ‘[t]he first new wall project, where no barrier currently exists, is anticipated to start in April’
(2017). That section is now complete,
and is the section depicted in the link
I posted.


56 posted on 03/19/2019 11:10:34 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right
Actually you are about 2 years behind.

It was never started in 2017. Thus you're referencing fake news.

No new wall has been built, yet.
57 posted on 03/19/2019 11:30:18 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: TexasGunLover

This from April, 2018;

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/us-mexico-border-wall-being-built-slowly/amp/

I can easily find other sources that
state this new section of wall has been
completed. So, they are all fake news?


58 posted on 03/19/2019 12:49:18 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right
So, they are all fake news?

I'll take the word of the agency that is responsible for them and first hand eye witness reports that continue to confirm- no new wall, yet.
59 posted on 03/19/2019 1:13:22 PM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: DAC21

I hope they spend the drug forfeiture money first.


60 posted on 03/19/2019 2:02:56 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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