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Author, former Colorado journalist links marijuana to mental illness
The Gazette ^ | Mar 20, 2019 | Joey Bunch

Posted on 03/20/2019 8:54:13 PM PDT by george76

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To: Valpal1

LOL, yes of course. But as far as I saw it wasn’t in the summary. Lancet is a medical journal so I imagine the data is in a chart there somewhere. My point was, we laypeople don’t know the number. So reporting a 400% increase in risk is a sort of propaganda by omission. If the rate is 1 in 1 million, a 400% increased risk is statistical noise. I don’t think the rate is that low, but you catch my drift.

And then there are all the other variables than need to be controlled. Potheads probably also have a number of other similarities. I read about how many of the post hoc studies showing that eating too much red meat increases risk of heart disease. Researchers many years later realized these studies didn’t control for sugar intake. Maybe red meat eaters also tend to have more dessert after dinner and/or sugars in their bread and coffee etc? Without the right controls any study can be incredibly misleading.


101 posted on 03/21/2019 1:14:45 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Valpal1
They specifically controlled for the self medicating cart/horse issue by not including anyone diagnosed with schizophrenia up to one year after being diagnosed with a substance abuse disorder.

Which still fails to control for a common cause of cannabis use and schizophrenia.

102 posted on 03/21/2019 1:24:31 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Valpal1
I prefer legalization over criminalization because I value liberty over safety and interdiction just creates organized crime and jackbooted thugs in an eternal dance of corruption.

Amen!

103 posted on 03/21/2019 1:25:48 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: wardaddy

They did ask him to stop and he did, but he failed cognitive tests repeatedly, hence the ct scans, mri, then therapy etc

It really scared him. He was at a stoplight one block from his shop and did not know where he was at 845am. It lasted for several hours. Hence the medical treatment. Cops did not charge him with DUI... they call for EMS thinking it was something else.

He grew his own since high school, always really high grade stuff. He was a dedicated smoker of marijuana.. hell he even started his own vacuum cleaner repair shop so he could grow and smoke, not be drug tested or hassled. Pretty dedicated to it..

It whacked him pretty hard... he recovered enough to get on with life, which is a good thing.


104 posted on 03/21/2019 1:47:46 PM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: george76

Tequila will cause psychotic episodes, especially the heap stuff.


105 posted on 03/21/2019 4:27:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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To: dynachrome

“cheap”


106 posted on 03/21/2019 4:29:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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To: george76

NPR: “Daily Marijuana Use And Highly Potent Weed Linked To Psychosis”

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/03/19/704948217/daily-marijuana-use-and-highly-potent-weed-linked-to-psychosis?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190319&fbclid=IwAR08DpyO0YZBWcNu9Hgkk_LqqbBw0n0br9UGZnxxXAqsXPdpxU5B1ApESFI


107 posted on 03/21/2019 5:34:56 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing
"Linked to" is not "causes".
108 posted on 03/21/2019 7:00:56 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Valpal1

You’d think with all that pot, the US and the Netherlands would lead the world in schizophrenia, yet they don’t.

Singapore has one of the highest rates of schizophrenia in the world (#7 out of 192 countries), while the rates in the US and the Netherlands are among the lowest - #181 and #173 respectively.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_schizophrenia


109 posted on 03/21/2019 8:11:14 PM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: Pelham

I know what borderline personality disorder is and I’ve known a couple of people who had it. But they didn’t smoke pot so it’s irrelevant to my original statement.


110 posted on 03/21/2019 9:13:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: LouAvul
They have no credibility and no forum because libertarianism is stupid. It only appeals to addicts.

That is crazy talk.     Are you sure you aren't a "pot addict."     Seriously, you might want to learn more about a subject before making declarative statements based on false information. That's what Leftist Liberals do.

The "War on Drugs" has been ongoing for almost fifty years now and we are no better off than when it started.     We need to stop putting the drug users in prison and allow our churches and institutions to assist in interdiction, support and recovery. Lock up the traffickers. Make marijuana legal to an extent for minor possession. Control it better with fines and jail for offenses committed while impaired, as with alcohol. Lock up the marijuana traffickers or put them out of business with legal and bonded growers.

If you looked into libertarianism you would find it never had anything at all to do with drugs.     Our Founding Fathers were libertarian.

From Wikipedia: The term libertarianism refers to a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, provided they allow others the same liberty and avoid harming others by abusing their liberty.
Doesn't that sound like the Golden Rule applied to Adults? Twenty years ago I was a large "L" libertarian for a year or two and I never saw a single pot smoker at any event nor anyone who advocated or even mentioned marijuana use.

I haven't given dues to, or been to a meeting of, the Libertarian Party since just after 9/11 when I saw the schism building between those in the Libertarian Party that saw attacks by Islam as initiation of force (thus requiring a principled libertarian response), and those that thought the use of force by Islam was retaliation for transgressions by the the US (Paulists, etc.). I will not support those LP pacifists ever again.

It was never about the drugs.

111 posted on 03/21/2019 9:19:07 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Valpal1
They specifically controlled for the self medicating cart/horse issue by not including anyone diagnosed with schizophrenia up to one year after being diagnosed with a substance abuse disorder.

Wait a minute. The claim was against marijuana use, not any other substance abuse. Plus the screening does not eliminate undiagnosed abusers using marijuana or any hard narcotics to self medicate for even years before being diagnosed with schizophrenia. That whole claim is ludicrous. The researchers would only be looking at an individual after the fact, not the individual's prior history.

112 posted on 03/21/2019 9:43:39 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: kaehurowing

It irks me and isn’t good science reporting when they leave out the dose, whether “high-potency” or not. When I vape before bed two or three times a week I use a consistent 0.1g of flower. Other people might go through an entire gram in a session: 10X as much. To leave out that information and categorize as “heavy usage” based solely on the frequency of use is ridiculous.


113 posted on 03/21/2019 10:04:50 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

BTW, the actual dose of THC in my case is around 8-10mg.


114 posted on 03/21/2019 10:12:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: PGR88
Everyone I know who smokes pot regularly is a total loser. Its as clear as day to me.

...and they vote Dim(ly)…

MJ is right up there with voting fraud and ballot-harvesting. Our Constitution is doomed by acceptance of a weed.

115 posted on 03/22/2019 4:21:18 AM PDT by Does so (Is Nanzi controlled by a Mexican Cartel?...)
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To: JohnBrowdie

That’s a very cool gif. thanx


116 posted on 03/22/2019 4:32:34 AM PDT by LouAvul (Socialism is the logical conclusion of liberalism. Anarchy is the logical conclusion of socialism.)
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To: wardaddy
His Dad introduced 8-year-old Robert Downey Jr to pot smoking .

Nothing bad happened, right?

117 posted on 03/22/2019 4:32:41 AM PDT by Does so (Is Nanzi controlled by a Mexican Cartel?...)
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To: higgmeister
You're delusional. Libertarianism. Pro pornography. Open borders. Vending machine narcotics. Pro abortion. Pro faggot rights.

You're not fooling anyone. You're using deflection to hide your stupidity. Anything under the guise of exercising "freedom" is idiotic libertarianism.

But you degenerates hide the fact that freedom without responsibility is anarchy. And anarchy destroys everybody it touches.

Take your mindless, ignorant, degenerate propaganda someplace else. You're not welcome here, and you know it.

But you'll continue to lurk here because you're not welcome anywhere else, either. Everybody knows libertarianism is an idiotic and archaic viewpoint.

Also, don't bother to respond to me. You're on ignore and I'm not going to waste my time on losers.

And I'm on to your lies. It's always about the drugs. Loser.

118 posted on 03/22/2019 4:39:22 AM PDT by LouAvul (Socialism is the logical conclusion of liberalism. Anarchy is the logical conclusion of socialism.)
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To: wardaddy
100s of lifelong pot smokers who contrary to the freeper knitting league’s canards are neither psychotic or liberal Have you ever gotten stoned or tripped?

Since it was called "dope", I never wanted to be around it. A thorough examination of "Florida man" could prove illuminating.

Of my three "toking" neighbors—or acquaintances—two are now dead—as of last summer. The remaining one is on oxygen.

119 posted on 03/22/2019 4:41:24 AM PDT by Does so (Is Nanzi controlled by a Mexican Cartel?...)
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To: Does so

My personal knowledge of 100s verus your three tales of woe

Maybe your three had more going on than weed

Not to mention my 15 years personal experience


120 posted on 03/22/2019 8:02:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (Progressives are simply unhappy people attacking the world rather than fixing themselves)
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