Posted on 03/23/2019 5:55:56 PM PDT by Magnatron
Okay. Maybe you’re right. I was thinking that none of them went to trial. I don’t see a plea agreement as being the same thing. Perhaps it’s all in semantics.
Let me rephrase the question: who has ever been charged with lying to Congress, gone to trial and found guilty?
What follows are names of individuals who were convicted of lying to Congress.
• September 26, 1956: Harvey Matusow was sentenced to five years in prison for perjury after admitting in his book ‘’False Witness’’ that his testimony before Congress in which he named more than 200 people as Communist or Communist sympathizer was nothing but a pack of lies.
• January 1, 1975: Former White House Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman, along with former Attorney General John Mitchell, both who served under Richard M. Nixon were convicted of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury stemming from testimony before the Senate Select Committee in the cover up of the break-in at the Democratic National Committee Headquarters.
• January 9, 1984: Rita M. Lavelle, former chief of the Environmental Protection Agency’s toxic waste programs, was sentenced to six months in prison and fined $10,000 for lying to a Congressional investigative subcommittees surrounding the extent of her knowledge about her former employer (Aerojet General Corporation) disposing of toxic wastes at the Stringfellow Acid Pits near Riverside, Calif.
• October 26, 1993: Deborah Gore Dean, an executive assistant at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was convicted of 12 felony counts, including steering HUD contracts to favored developers, lying to Congress and taking bribes
• October 18, 1994: Jerry Weissman, the Chief Financial Officer of Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield was indicted by a Federal Grand Jury on charges he lied to a Senate subcommittee and obstructed its investigation of financial regularities at the company. On March 4, 1997, Weismann was convicted of concealing $80 million in losses his company had suffered under his reign.
Thanks for your efforts. That gives me hope. You’re a good man, kabar.
He is not going to play that way.
He knows his enemy.
Me too in cahoots with Barry O. My read is Brennan is the first big fish to fry
What’s he gonna do, in your opinion?
I don’t know, just saying what I think should happen - in the perfect world.
Perhaps Barr will lead the prosecutions. Congress has sent a number of criminal referrals. The ball is in the air.
Whatever the case, he has to do something. First it is in his nature to hit back. Second, his base will be disgusted if nothing happens.
I have a pretty outlandish conspiracy theory. I think Carter Page was a Brennan plant. Pages background makes me think he was a US spy. Some of the things that happened seem to dovetail with that. Obviously if he was a spy based in Moscow you’d need to keep that secret so we’ll probably never learn the truth.
And Brennan too
I have a pretty outlandish conspiracy theory. I think Carter Page was a Brennan plant. Pages background makes me think he was a US spy. Some of the things that happened seem to dovetail with that. Obviously if he was a spy based in Moscow you’d need to keep that secret so we’ll probably never learn the truth.
No theory should be discounted. To me Brennan is number one on the list with possibly a body punching exercise by Graham to loosen up Comey to protect himself .
I am still puzzling over why Carter Page was not indicted. They had no hesitance to indict others for obstruction of justice based on very flimsy discrepancies in their statements to the FBI and Mueller team. They interviewed Page several times, yet apparently were not able to find similar discrepancies in his statements, despite the fact that he was a central figure in the dossier. I suspect there is more to Carter Page than we know.
One thing about all of this that I’ve noticed is that whenever something happened overseas, it was not an accident. To me, it’s an indication that the CIA (aka Brennan) was behind those meetings. The CIA cannot conduct operations in the US. So Brennan arranged that they be conducted overseas. He brought foreign citizens into the effort partly because the operations were overseas, and partly because it would be difficult for US based investigators to obtain cooperation of foreign persons if the matter was ever investigated.
So let’s look at what happened overseas. Papadopoulos met several times with US intelligence personnel stationed overseas. There was Misfud, who later disappeared. There was Stephan Halper, who met with Papadopoulos. There were a series of other individuals including a woman who was said to be Putin’s niece, but really wasn’t. There was Downer.
Later, Carter Page went to Russia. I think that’s interesting. If Brennan was using foreign ops to conduct his investigation, then the fact that Carter Page went overseas makes you wonder if Brennan arranged that.
Another thing: At one point Halper was trying to reach Papadopoulos, and could not. So he contacted Carter Page, and Carter Page put him in touch. Doesn’t that strike you as odd? Why Carter Page of all people? You might think, well Halper was trying to engage Page as well... But Page’s role with Halper was very brief, almost as though they wanted to keep Page out of it.
Page was a Merrill Lynch station chief in Moscow. I can’t help notice that that would be a very good cover for a CIA operative. Later, he came back to the US, and almost immediately got involved in an FBI counterespionage investigation. That might not be a coincidence. The FBI has its story about how that came about, but you can bet that if Page was their guy, the FBI story has fictional aspects to make it look like Page was just a bystander. Certainly, the CIA would not want it to be known that Carter Page had been a US spy even at this late date because it would give Putin a roadmap that would help him roll up the entire CIA operation in Moscow.
Why would they wiretap Page, then? How about this: They weren’t so much wiretapping Page. They were wiretapping those who might call Page. Maybe that’s why the wiretap was so slip-shod. They knew Page was not going to complain. He was one of them. It’s possible that they sent him to Moscow so they would have a reason to wiretap him, in fact. Or maybe just to give Christopher Steele a test. One thing not disclosed by the dossier was why Carter Page’s name came up at all in Steele’s discussions with his Russian contacts. Did the Russians bring it up, or did the FBI ask Steele to inquire?
Page has made a lot of media appearances. I think all of that can be seen as an effort to give him cover. Certainly Hannity and the other Foxnews personalities have portrayed Page as a victim, which is possibly what the CIA and FBI want.
When the FISA warrant memo was released, the Democrats went nuts. But no one was more shrill than John Brennan. He accused the President of endangering US intelligence operations, putting lives at risk. He said it would be treason. I think he might have had a good reason to make those statements. Was Carter Page just a victim in all this, or was he a plant? Certainly if he’d been revealed a plant, then lives would be at risk in Moscow. For that reason, we may never know.
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