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IT'S CORRUPTION, NOT SOCIALISM, THAT BROUGHT DOWN VENEZUELA
PSmag ^ | 3/14/19 | THOR BENSONMAR

Posted on 03/30/2019 4:13:12 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

You can’t have SOCIALISM without CORRUPTION!


41 posted on 03/30/2019 5:01:26 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Trump Revolution is the Resistance to the Decadence of Western Civilization.)
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To: Libloather

Socialism is Corruption! DUH!


42 posted on 03/30/2019 5:03:15 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: Libloather

Socialism IS corruption. Any questions?


43 posted on 03/30/2019 5:05:48 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Libloather

Socialism and corruption go together like stink and sh!t.


44 posted on 03/30/2019 5:06:35 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Read “I, Pencil” if you haven’t. It takes ten minutes and it’s the best investment of ten minutes ever.


45 posted on 03/30/2019 5:07:04 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Because governments are not subjected to the same competitive pressures that businesses face (and are in fact monopolies), they are breeding grounds--hot houses--for corruption.

So blame corruption or socialism or both, they are part and parcel of the same problem inherent in government run operations of any kind.

46 posted on 03/30/2019 5:08:20 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Libloather

If we concede the point that it’s not socialism that failed in Venezuela, but it was the corruption. Can it not be argued that true socialism is so intertwined with corruption that the two cannot be separated? Socialism IS corruption !!

Under socialism, there is no advantage to being on the top of the heap. The quality of life is the same at the top or the bottom, except at the bottom, it is a lot less responsibility/work. So what is the incentive to be at the top?

With no legal mechanism to improve your lot, you then look to illegal methods to improve your position. And therein lies the conundrum. How do you incentivize leadership without some sort of discernable difference from your peasantry?

You can’t, and that is why socialism fails. Corruption is a feature, not a bug.


47 posted on 03/30/2019 5:09:25 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Libloather
Imagine if the City of Chicago were to take over all businesses in its city limits.

What would be the level of corruption?

Smolletts would be promoted to positions of importance. Rahm Emanuel would be the CEO and Kim Foxx would be legal counsel.

Would these businesses now taken over be better managed--better run--than before? Would their efficiency go up or down?

Would consumers and workers be better off...or not?

This is socialism.

48 posted on 03/30/2019 5:18:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Libloather
Socialism is corrupt by nature.

It is impossible to have a non-corrupt socialist government. Honest people avoid working for socialist governments because they are crooked by design. The more control the government has the more it's minions will be susceptible to bribes.

Because socialism is clunky, slow and unnatural even the most honest of people try to circumvent the system.

This leads to corruption.

49 posted on 03/30/2019 5:19:38 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (If you are going to be baked by a witch you might as well go out with a mouth full of gingerbread!)
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To: Libloather

Just look at the corruption and evil in the Democratic Party.

They justify killing babies, allowing illegals to overrun the border, etc for their power and benefit.

Read Dinesh’s story about the rope or the ladder.

Basically, in America there are two sides — two parties. There is the party of the ladder and there is the party of the rope.

So what’s the party of the Ladder?
The people of the ladder believes America is a kind of ladder — a ladder of opportunity.

The government does have a job, and it’s to hold the ladder!

And what that means is to protect our rights, to enforce contracts, and to be non-discriminatory. So the goverment has the job of holding the ladder. It’s our job to climb it.

Now how far you get on the ladder is going to depend on you and your creativity and your hard work. And it’s going to depend a little bit on luck.

But at the end of the day, most of it is going to be earned achievement. You’ll get some place on the ladder and be able to look down and say, “I did this. I played this deck of cards I was dealt and was able to achieve ‘this’ in life.”
But there’s another approach, and on first glance, it’s actually more appealing. And that’s the politics of the rope.

And that goes kind of like this.

Down here you have all the immigrants and minorities. And there’s kind of tall building. And there’s a group of guys — let’s call them Democrats — on the top of the building.

And they said, “Worry not, you people down there. We’re going to be sending down a rope for you. And you’re job is really easy. You just have to hold the rope.”

So you can see. On first glance, this looks very easy. Right? Climbing a ladder requires climbing. Holding a rope just requires holding on.

So you go, “I’ll go for the rope!”

But as you go for the rope, it suddenly begins to dawn on you, if you think about it: that you are very dependent on the people who are supposed to pull you up. In fact, if they let go, down you go.

So not only do you have this dependency, but then you notice a second and even more dismaying fact. You notice that of all the other people who have gone for the rope before you, not a whole lot of them — maybe none — ever seem to get to the top.

The Democrats appear to pull, and then hold. And when they hold, you’re kind of caught in the middle. You are in no-man’s land. You’re too far from the ground to let go, cause you might crash. And yet, nobody is pulling you up. You’re stuck.

And then it crosses your mind, “Maybe they like me that way!”

Maybe they want me stuck, because as long as I’m stuck I’m totally dependent on them. Because in return for the meager crumbs they’re offering me, they want something from me that’s free for me to give.

But I don’t have to give it. And that’s my vote.

And I think, the only price you pay for being a person of the rope, at the end of the day, is not only dependency, but a certain degradation of your soul.

Because you’re achievements in life no longer depend on your efforts. You don’t have that pride in saying, “I did it”.

And I think that ultimately this message is a very empowering, exhilarating message that we have to share.

We’re got to convince people they should be people of the ladder.

But not just preach to them, but show them the ladders! We’ve got to show them there are ladders. And in some cases, we may have to show them how to climb a ladder. j

But if we do that, then our side can’t lose. The truth is on our side, and if we can combine that with a message of hope and prosperity, we can begin to see that day that Reagan, in a way, just dreamed about.

It’s a day in which all Americans are achieving the American Dream, a day Reagan called “Morning in America”.

Thank you very much.


50 posted on 03/30/2019 5:19:40 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Artcore
They’re one and the same!

Actually, they are cause (socialism) and effect (corruption).

51 posted on 03/30/2019 5:23:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: ADSUM

Very well put.


52 posted on 03/30/2019 5:25:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Libloather

Socialism always ends up in corruption with it; human beings are incapable of constructing a secular utopia because greed wins out.


53 posted on 03/30/2019 5:30:25 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Libloather

Socialism is corruption and mismanagement. It means the government knows best. And has all the power. Governments have caused most of the man-made natural disasters, desertification of land, nuclear meltdown, etc. Plus the genocides, and the corrupt officials that don’t enforce regulations or don’t enforce them uniformly. Most people who have a problem with the world have a problem with a government, but they think the solution is to give more power to the government.

I blame the colleges and teachers unions for making this kind of though seem rational to a younger generation.


54 posted on 03/30/2019 5:35:29 AM PDT by poinq
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To: stonehouse01
socialism IS corruption.
55 posted on 03/30/2019 5:36:03 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Gen.Blather

‘Zackly.

It’s like the old joke: the fall didn’t kill him...it was the landing.


56 posted on 03/30/2019 5:36:43 AM PDT by relictele
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To: wastoute
Thanks. I'll check it out.

"There has to be an Invisible Hand,
To let the market set the price's band..." ~ Sting's conservative brother.

57 posted on 03/30/2019 5:39:13 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: Libloather

Socialism breeds corruption, corruption breeds socialism.


58 posted on 03/30/2019 5:40:24 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Libloather; All

Milton Friedman answered this argument very well:

“Is it really true that political self-interest is nobler somehow than economic self-interest ? You know, I think you’re taking a lot of things for granted. Just tell me where in the world you find these angels who are going to organize society for us ? Well, I don’t even trust you to do that.”

That is the problem. Socialist have to be angels for socialism to work. But they are men, so it doesn’t work.

Without limits on government, you do not get prosperity. With limits on government, you can’t have socialism.


59 posted on 03/30/2019 5:40:29 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Libloather

I think he lives in Boston. That’s just as bad


60 posted on 03/30/2019 5:42:28 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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