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IT'S CORRUPTION, NOT SOCIALISM, THAT BROUGHT DOWN VENEZUELA
PSmag ^ | 3/14/19 | THOR BENSONMAR

Posted on 03/30/2019 4:13:12 AM PDT by Libloather

These days it seems you can't talk about socialism without being required to talk also about Venezuela—largely because certain people on the right bring up the failures of Venezuela every time the word "socialism" appears. Right-wing pundits claim incessantly that socialist policies are to blame for the terrible conditions that Venezuelans are now living through.

But this story is fundamentally false.

"It's a cheap rhetorical tactic," says James Galbraith, professor of economics at the University of Texas–Austin.

"No serious person makes this argument," says Richard D. Wolff, professor emeritus in economics at the University of Massachusetts–Amherst.

There are many reasons why Venezuela failed in the way that it did. But it certainly wasn't because Venezuelans got free health care. An over-reliance on oil exports in the years before oil prices plummeted in 2016 was a partial cause of the crisis. Intervention by the United States is another important part of it. Most crucially, it was a government rife with corruption that shattered Venezuela.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; power; socialism; venezuela
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"What socialist policy failed in Venezuela?" Noam Chomsky asks me rhetorically. "The policies of allowing virtually free rein to capital for enrichment?"

Noam should live there. But he doesn't. Yeah, it was socialism.

1 posted on 03/30/2019 4:13:12 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

The Venezuela government siezed control of the means of production, and distribution of various industries. Text book socialism.


2 posted on 03/30/2019 4:18:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Libloather
Milton Friedman could be President of Venezuela and it would still be a corrupt, third-world hell hole.

Corruption is endemic to South America.

As much as the Spanish language it bathes everything down there.

3 posted on 03/30/2019 4:20:07 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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So, am I to understand that the reason socialism failed is because they didn't do it correctly....again?

Has to have the worst track record of implementation because it's never done correctly, somehow and keeps failing - this time because of "corruption". As if a fundamentally flawed system like socialism isn't inherently corrupt.

4 posted on 03/30/2019 4:20:33 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: Libloather

Corruption is the other side of the socialist coin. You can’t have the one without the other.


5 posted on 03/30/2019 4:20:57 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Libloather
I saw this very same argument on DU a few weeks back. And the funny thing is, they said that while socialism absolutely will work if we'll just try it, somehow it always gets spoiled by kleptocrats - essentially the same argument above.

Nothing wrong with socialism, mind you. It has never failed. It's just that somehow kleptocrats keep messing it up. Think about that.

6 posted on 03/30/2019 4:21:12 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: Libloather

Seems to me that corruption and socialism are two sides to the same coin.

However, I also believe that corruption and government are two sides to the same coin.


7 posted on 03/30/2019 4:22:09 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: Libloather

Unfamiliar with the concept of a syllogism?

1.) Concentration of power facilitates corruption.

2.) Socialism concentrates power.

3.) Therefore, socialism facilitates corruption.


8 posted on 03/30/2019 4:24:19 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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9 posted on 03/30/2019 4:24:50 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Libloather

They’re one and the same!


10 posted on 03/30/2019 4:25:10 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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So it wasn't socialism, it was just the wrong people in charge... again.

What is it about socialism that the wrong people get in charge every single time? Could it be that governments and economies just don't mix? In which case the problem is socialism.

The only half way good socialism is like in the Scandinavian countries where they saw they were falling behind in the 70s and 80s, sold off their state owned industries and became former socialists without needing a bloody revolution to do it.

11 posted on 03/30/2019 4:25:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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Corruption is the other side of the socialist coin.

Exactly. In what real world scenarios can you take a bunch of human beings - with our long track record of personal behavior - who have never run a business and have no concept of how markets work, put them in charge to decide, top down, top to bottom, what people can make, buy, and how they are to work and be compensated, and expect these same empowered few not to let it all go to their heads?

Pigs, milk, apples. Like clockwork.

12 posted on 03/30/2019 4:25:51 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

1.) Power corrupts.

2.) Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

3.) Therefore, giving power and money to politicians is like giving car keys and liquor to teenage boys.


13 posted on 03/30/2019 4:26:01 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Schumer delenda est.)
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"No serious person makes this argument," says Richard D. Wolff, professor emeritus in economics at the University of Massachusetts–Amherst.

Nor do True Scotsmen!

14 posted on 03/30/2019 4:27:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Libloather

Corruption - Socialism
What’s the difference?


15 posted on 03/30/2019 4:27:53 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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16 posted on 03/30/2019 4:28:06 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Corruption is the other side of the socialist coin. You can’t have the one without the other.

Exactly. The foundational philosophy of socialism is that people who embrace it think they're going to get a bigger slice of the wealth-pie because they're more deserving. Socialism is thievery.

17 posted on 03/30/2019 4:30:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Libloather

The author assumes it’s possible to have socialism without corruption, that the people given total control of the economy won’t use that to enrich themselves.


18 posted on 03/30/2019 4:30:50 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Corruption and socialism go hand in hand, nuff sed


19 posted on 03/30/2019 4:31:42 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: Libloather

“They just didn’t do it right”


20 posted on 03/30/2019 4:33:23 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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