Posted on 05/24/2019 12:07:33 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
Recently I've run into several Planned Parent activists on the street in the metropolitan area where I live.
I usually ignore them, argue with them, or leave them with a snide comment, but today I tried a different approach.
I engaged the representative, a young college student, in a discussion and found that he didn't really believe all the talking points he was spouting.
Unlike most of his co-activists, this young man was persuadable, and hopefully I gave him something to think deeply about on the topic of abortion and the sanctity of human life.
I know that most of the PP activists are quite hardened in their beliefs, but if I/we can get even one activist to change his/her mind, there is hope.
My question:
If I run into someone who is "open" to changing his mind on the abortion issue, what are some good ways to help him/her see the truth? I tend to get angry and argumentative in these types of discussions, but I think a more Christ-like approach would be more effective.
Please share your ideas.
Cut their government funding?
Tell them that Abortion and Slavery rest on the same foundation; that certain classes of people are “property.”
Whenever I hear a doubleminded rant and there is that pause waiting for a response (because ranting lunatics ALWAYS want response to gauge their effectiveness), I do the Mr. Spock trick. I raise one eyebrow, keep an emotionless look on my face and simply reply “fascinating” which kills it.
If they are dogs or swine, font waste your time.
“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.”
Ask them if they have had an abortion. No?
Then they have no idea what it’s like. No idea of the trauma, guilt and remorse it causes a woman.
Good ideas. I hadn’t thought of the slavery/abortion analogy before.
I saw it years ago, and realized that this was a pretty good analogy.
Simply ask them the question:
Would you be here if abortion was free?...................
I applaud your position and admire your patience.
I don’t know there is anything one can do other than calmly ask them probing questions about what they said, to see if they, in their own minds, can truly justify what they claim.
Good one.
Here’s the most common pro-choice argument: It’s my body. I can do with it what I please.
Both parts of that argument are wrong. When a woman becomes pregnant, it is no longer just her body. That might seem “unfair”, but that’s how nature works.
Now to the second part. You can’t do whatever you want to your body. For example, you can’t just sit on your front lawn and inject yourself with heroin. Society has long put limitations on that sort of thing.
By the way, screaming and yelling rarely works when trying to persuade someone. As you noticed, the gentle and patient approach is much better.
I think the pro group is more akin to a religious cult than a political or social movement. Whatever PP is, it is NOT about women’s health. As such you are more likely dealing with an emotional and non-logical person and argument. Personally, radical liberals scare the living Hell out of me because they have defined any argument that goes against their cannon as violence and they will respond with violence. That man who roundhouse kicked an abortion protester comes to mind. My means of dealing with them is to stay away from individuals and vote for candidates most likely to do something to pull PP’s funding.
However, if you do decide to argue I’d make it short and to the point. “Did you know that 60% of abortions are black people? The organization was started by Alma Sanger who said in speeches to the KKK that ‘we will eliminate those ugly brown people not by killing them but by stopping them from reproducing.’ Do you really want to continue that racist’s work for her?” After this you have either made your point or you haven’t. But I would continue on my way.
I wish you the best of luck. (By the way, my extreme efforts to avoid conflict are because I carry and I will not let somebody beat me up if I can pull and shoot. I really don’t want to kill anybody. Thus, I am the politest driver you will ever meet. If somebody does yell at me, I say I am sorry no matter what the facts are.)
I mainly listened and let him dig deeper to see if he would recognize his own contradictions. It was hard to bite my tongue.
It does two things, it causes them to stop and think about their own existence, and personalizes the consequences of an abortion.............................
Mother Teresa's declaration may be the most powerful statement from which to begin discussions of this subject.
The sole reason these rights were deemed unalienable is that both are derived from the Creator--not from the mother or father, and not from government or judicial decision. What is "granted" by human decision also can, by implication, be withheld.
"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them (life and liberty)," said Thomas Jefferson.
"The world is different now. . . and yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address
That understanding underlies every other consideration embodied in our Declaration of Independence and every protection of our Constitution. It is the very basis of our rights to life and liberty, of laws to protect them, and it distinguishes ours from other forms of government.
When we fail to acknowledge that foundation of our liberty, then we risk liberty itself for future generations, for where does the right to choose who lives and who does not really end?
That is why the question is of vital importance in each election. Already, we have deprived millions of their Creator-endowed rights to life and liberty, and our nation must be weaker for their loss. We need leaders who understand the implications and potential consequences of departing from our founding principles.
In recent decades, technological advances have enabled us to observe the characteristics and actions of God's tiniest creations in the womb. Unlike previous generations who could not see, we have no excuse for imagining that these are mere blobs of tissue labeled "fetuses." In their early weeks, we now can see that they are living babies who will continue on to possess life and liberty if we do not "destroy" both. Indeed, they are simply smaller versions of ourselves.
Questions on the economy, taxes, threats from terrorists, health care--all are considerations at this election time. One, however, is basic to all others for me. Who will best protect the underlying premise of our Constitution--and the lives and liberties of millions yet unborn?
Promises are illusive and cheap. In 2020, this voter will examine each candidate's previous voting record carefully on all issues, because past actions are the best predictors of future decisions.
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Carl Kolchak sometimes used a cross when dealing with blood-thirsty vampires.....
Show them a baby
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