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Springfield Walmart Open Carry of Rifle Becomes Panic Driven by Media Contagion
Ammoland ^ | 11 August, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/13/2019 2:29:56 AM PDT by marktwain

At about 4:10 p.m. on 8 August 2019, Dmitriy Andreychenco walked into the Walmart Neighborhood Market in Springfield, Missouri. He had a slung AR-type rifle and was wearing a T-shirt and tactical vest. He obtained a shopping cart and was videoing himself on a cell phone while pushing the cart through the store. He did not threaten anyone, point the rifle at anyone, or make any threats that are known at this time.

A manager at the store pulled the store alarm, causing a panic while customers evacuated the store. Dmitriy evacuated with the other customers. As he left the store, a firefighter with a concealed carry permit, who was armed, drew his pistol and held Dmitriy for police. In the video from outside the store, you can see that Dmitri was calmly complying with police orders. Look at his black t-shirt. I do not see any evidence of body armor being worn.

He is wearing some sort of web gear, which it appears, the media denoted as “body armor.” Identification of web gear as body armor has been common in the media.

Open carry is legal in Missouri. It has been hard fought for. Opponents of an armed population have worked hard to characterize open carry as threatening. The last few days of a media blitz on the rampage murders in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, have put the country on edge. The message has been that every young white male is a deadly threat. The manager at Walmart seems to have bought into the message.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: andreychenko; banglist; mo; opencarry
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To: _Jim
The CCW holder obviously. Said CCW holder should know the carry rights in their state.

And actually, the CCW holder in this story should have been arrested for drawing on Mr. Dimitry.

The CCW holder was IN THE WRONG.

21 posted on 08/13/2019 4:01:24 AM PDT by onona (Mexico is a parasite)
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To: marktwain

Open carry is legal in many states, including mine. It is not practical in todays society to open carry in public places. It is also not required when conceal carry will do just fine. Open carry in public will get you a disturbing the peace charge at best, shot by overzealous city police at worst.


22 posted on 08/13/2019 4:04:33 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Had I seen this young man walking in to my local Walmart, I might have shot him dead.

I carry all the time. So, do, probably, a large percentage of the locals in my rural area.

I recommend you stop carrying then. I seriously question your judgement to do so responsibly.

If you "shot him dead" for no other reason than him carrying a slung rifle, you would go to prison for life.

23 posted on 08/13/2019 4:04:36 AM PDT by onona
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To: marktwain

I see people open carrying both pistols and rifles on a regular basis and not once have I ever felt the slightest fear they would go postal.


24 posted on 08/13/2019 4:06:41 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: IamConservative
It is not practical in todays society to open carry in public places.

"Practicality" is not part of the law.

25 posted on 08/13/2019 4:07:50 AM PDT by onona
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To: marktwain

I love great theater.
A double blind act.
A perfect reaction by the store manager.

All the people played their parts well.

Now a person open carrying can expect to be challenged in reality


26 posted on 08/13/2019 4:10:53 AM PDT by South Dakota
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To: onona

re: “The CCW holder was IN THE WRONG.”

Sorry, BUCKWHEAT, you still got SHOT ... (THIS is a hypothetical THAT COULD HAPPEN. Geez. Some ppl just WON’T get it, ever.)


27 posted on 08/13/2019 4:12:47 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: thoughtomator

One of our regular morning coffee group open carries. We have sheriff’s deputies and city police who drink coffee with us. No one has ever said a word to the open carrier.

Actually “in today’s times” I feel comfortable with him being there, in case some nut came in and tried to shoot up the place. Not that any of us old farts are worth killing.


28 posted on 08/13/2019 4:14:51 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: South Dakota

re: “Now a person open carrying can expect to be challenged in reality”

Are you stupid too?

Or uninformed to the extreme?

I guess you’re too dumb to realize - this MORON did this within a COUPLE DAYS of two MASS SHOOTINGS.

You MORONS don’t understand HUMAN NATURE.

Ugh!

PARADE AROUND WAL-MART SOME OTHER DAY, MORON, just NOT two days after a MASS SHOOTING event.

GOT IT YET?


29 posted on 08/13/2019 4:16:48 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim
Well, you asked who would be in the wrong.

The law is on the slung rifle carrying person's side, not the CCW holder.

30 posted on 08/13/2019 4:17:46 AM PDT by onona
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To: Gen.Blather
Had I seen this young man walking in to my local Walmart, I might have shot him dead. I carry all the time. So, do, probably, a large percentage of the locals in my rural area.

Then I hope that you would be facing life in prison for second degree murder. Absent any threatening move on his part, and there were none by all accounts, you would have shot someone doing nothing illegal.

31 posted on 08/13/2019 4:18:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: abb

I feel safer around open carriers than in their absence.


32 posted on 08/13/2019 4:21:21 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: onona

re: “The law is on the slung rifle carrying person’s side, not the CCW holder.”

But, you’re DEAD, stupid. (In this hypothetical.)

Because you challenged HUMAN NATURE in the form of someone on-edge in the wake of a mass shooting and press-induced hysteria.

You’re just NOT going to get this, are you?

Make better decisions in the future, LET some time pass AFTER the mass-shooting before you parade around in a Wal-mart with a rifle, cammo-shirt, taking full motion-picture “selfies” ...


33 posted on 08/13/2019 4:24:58 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: DoodleDawg

It is private property, and they set the rules. If hello how are you doing from the police is too much contact...well some of the later responses in the thread are pretty clear.

I would like organizations to help someone like this however. And get something to the SCOTUS that will assist the states in what the 2nd amendment really means.

DK


34 posted on 08/13/2019 4:27:08 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: onona

Amen, amen, amen.


35 posted on 08/13/2019 4:27:20 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: marktwain
Agreed that his actions were legal. He might even be acquitted. But were his actions intelligent, well considered and good for our Second Amendment advocacy? What effects might his actions and timing have on our freedoms? Was he wanting anti-Second-Amendment legislation passed...or...could it be...

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36 posted on 08/13/2019 4:29:45 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: marktwain

The guy is a buffoon and an idiot. Given what had just happened in El Paso, he’s lucky he wasn’t taken out by Wal Mart Security before he got past the greeter. He didn’t help his cause. There are gun nuts out there. He is one of them.


37 posted on 08/13/2019 4:34:34 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Had I seen this young man walking in to my local Walmart, I might have shot him dead.”

You should not be carrying. Ever.

The kid didnt do anything wrong. You need to reread your pocket Constitution.

You are one of the reasons the 2nd Amend exists. To protect our G-d given rights from intrusive, holier than thou busy bodies who “know whats best” for others.


38 posted on 08/13/2019 4:35:17 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Artemis Webb

I said it before, open carry for a guy like this is BLING... (look at me, I have a big gun). He may have the ”right” to open carry, but he doesn’t HAVE the ”right” to tarnish the 2nd Amendment which a STUPID action like this does. A GUN isn’t for BLING. This kind of childish action hurts all of us on the gun rights side. I carry every day and NOBODY knows it but me.


39 posted on 08/13/2019 4:38:04 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: marktwain

Just because you can do a thing, doesn’t mean you should.

This guy did us no favors with this self-aggrandizing stunt.


40 posted on 08/13/2019 4:40:19 AM PDT by Egon
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