Posted on 09/16/2019 6:24:54 PM PDT by robowombat
TheHill.com Prospects for Trump gun deal grow dimmer BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 09/16/19 06:54 PM EDT
Prospects for a bipartisan deal on gun control legislation have dimmed significantly as President Trump and Democratic leaders appear to be far apart on the key issue of expanding background checks.
Republicans expect Trump to put forward a proposal addressing gun violence later this week, but Democrats predict it is likely to fall far short of what is needed and that they may not vote for it.
Democrats are pressing Trump to agree to a gun control bill already approved by the House, but the president has yet to even signal support for a scaled-down background check bill sponsored by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.).
“I don’t think anyone thinks he’s going to endorse the Toomey bill, which is weaker than the House bill,” said a senior Democratic aide, expressing growing doubt on Capitol Hill that Trump will strike a bipartisan deal.
As a result, the likelihood that Congress will fail to take action on gun violence a month after a new spate of shootings across the country appears to be growing.
Republicans say the political momentum within their party to expand background checks suffered a blow last week when Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke declared, “hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15s, your AK-47s” at Thursday’s primary debate.
It was a big moment for O’Rourke’s campaign, but it underscored long-standing arguments from gun rights proponents that Democratic efforts on gun control are really aimed at the confiscation of firearms.
“This rhetoric undermines and hurts bipartisan efforts to actually make progress on commonsense gun safety efforts, like expanding background checks,” Toomey, who has been at the center of Senate negotiations, warned Friday.
It’s still possible the two parties could agree on some lower-hanging measures.
White House officials last week floated the idea of a new smartphone app that would be connected to the National
Instant Criminal Background Check System, which could be used to conduct background checks for sales between individuals who are not licensed dealers.
But it will be difficult for Democrats to agree to that proposal if it is a high watermark of what can be accepted by Republicans.
Manchin dismissed the idea of the smartphone app.
“The app’s crazy, totally crazy,” he said, arguing that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System works well as it is. “We have something that’s not broken, and they want to fix it and throw something at it. To throw that into a bill would be wrong.”
Similarly, Democrats are signaling that just passing “red flag” legislation that would empower law enforcement officials to confiscate firearms from people judged to be dangerous is not enough.
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) argued on the Senate floor Monday that without an expansion of background check requirements, even a person who had his or her firearm confiscated by the police could immediately purchase another one from an individual who is not a federally licensed dealer.
Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), a key negotiator who has had discussions with Trump on gun control, told reporters that the president needed to give them an affirmative sign by the end of last week in order to keep momentum from dying in Congress.
“My worry is that the forces inside the White House that are representing the gun lobby may be prevailing,” Murphy told reporters Monday. “I think that’s a shame.”
“They told us we would hear back by Thursday and we didn’t hear anything on Thursday or Friday or Saturday or Sunday,” he added. “Silence is probably indicative that they’re not willing to move.”
Manchin also sounded a pessimistic note.
“I haven’t heard back from their staff,” said Manchin, who panned the idea of creating a new smartphone app to conduct background checks.
Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) said Monday afternoon that Trump is still reviewing his options, and a senior Republican aide said the White House is expected to present a plan to GOP leaders later this week.
“I think they’re looking at that and a whole range of issues, but I don’t think they’ve come to any conclusions,”
Thune, who met with Trump last week, said when asked about the prospect of the president endorsing expanded background checks.
Still, as more days pass without progress, gun control advocates in the Senate are growing increasingly pessimistic.
“It’s typical of the president and his statements on controversial issues. He’s on the side of the American people until he’s on the side of the special interest,” said Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.).
Conservatives are already warning the White House and GOP leaders of a backlash from gun rights advocates if Trump endorses a proposal to expand background checks to all online and gun show sales, as envisioned by the Manchin-Toomey bill.
“If Republicans abandon the Second Amendment and demoralize millions of Americans who care deeply about Second Amendment rights, that could go a long way to electing a President Elizabeth Warren,” Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) warned last week, referring to the liberal Massachusetts senator, who is running for president.
A senior Republican aide on Monday expressed skepticism that Trump will endorse legislation that would significantly expand background checks, such as the Manchin-Toomey bill or the universal background check measure passed by the House in February.
In a call on Sunday with Schumer and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Trump made no commitment on the House bill, according to two officials familiar with the call.
There are times when even DJT has to make soothing sounds to quiet the Nervous Nellies in our midst.
I figured from the start that any regulatory changes would be, at most, cosmetic in nature.
America doesn’t have a gun problem. It has a huge mental illness problem.
And that problem is caused by families breaking up for no good reason other than the woman’s need to “find herself.” This leaves the man devastated emotionally and financially, and the children without the guidance of a father.
It’s not guns, it’s feminism that kills.
no bg checks for illegal status still....
The Gun Grabbers want to immediately bathe in the blood of the dead before the bodies grow cold every time some lunatic murders a bunch of people. The key is to stall until passions die down. Once cooler heads prevail, they can’t accomplish any of their gun grabs.
Trump has done a masterful job of doing just that.
Thank God!
[And, yes, I mean that literally. I just prayed and thanked Him for continuing to protect His people in America from our enemies.]
thx for reminder
Trump is going to have the Democrats voting against gun control before this ends.
Good! What about shall not be infringed is SO hard for EVERYONE to understand? Criminals don’t care about ANY laws!
Hopefully........
000000000oh ye of no faith
You have jumped to a foolish conclusion
You gullibly believed the propaganda specifically propagated to mess with the minds of people like you
Unfortunately, you may be correct. The Deep State has a deep bench of MK ULTRA broken minded goons that can be launched via a phone call.
As always, Democrats’ real goal is to own the issue at election time.
Trump astutely realized this. Hence appearing to be open to reasonable compromise was a no-risk gambit for him.
I’m noticing a pattern that when articles like this come out, they serve as a klaxon call.
Another spree killing is about to take place, if the pattern holds.
Stay armed, FRiends.
Neither would do a thing.
It wouldn’t actually happen, but let The Master Troll suggest the possibility and watch liberal heads explode as the hypocrisy pressure progressively achieves ever higher levels!
You have added no value to the conversation.
hah! Every time one of these loons goes off and kills a bunch of people, I think of that movie.
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