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Democrats Refuse to Include Gang Members in “Red Flag” Laws
Ammoland ^ | 19 September, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/21/2019 7:08:48 AM PDT by marktwain

Democrats Refuse to Include Gang Members in "Red Flag" Laws

On 10 September 2019, Colorado Congressman Ken Buck (R-CO) offered an amendment to the proposed bill to create federal grants for  “Red Flag” bills in the House of Representative. The amendment was offered in the Judiciary Committee.  Representative Ken Buck's introduction of the amendment occurs in the first minute and ten seconds of the video on C-Span. “Red Flag” bills allow police to confiscate guns from people with a mere accusation they may pose a threat. In Red Flag bills, there is little due process.

An accusation is sufficient. No court appearance by the accused, or confrontation of witnesses, is required.  There is no presumption of innocence. To regain their rights, the person accused has to prove they are “not* a danger. They may incur thousands of dollars of court costs to regain the property that was taken from them without due process.

Representative Buck's amendment would allow law enforcement agencies, on probable cause of a person belonging to a criminal gang, to use “Red Flag” laws to take guns from gang members.

Representative Buck offered testimony that most murders and violent crimes involving guns are committed by gang members. The standard of probable cause is much higher than a mere accusation from a family member or other person who may have motivation to make false charges, about potential future conduct.

The amendment pointed out the hypocrisy of the Left. The Committee Chairman, Representative Nadler, said a taking guns from a person, for simply being on a database, would violate due

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; banglist; dueprocess; redflag; redflaglaws; secondamendment
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To: antidemoncrat

And you can bet when it comes time to confiscate guns, they’ll leave the hoods alone.


21 posted on 09/21/2019 8:47:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: lurk

....and shoot his dog.


22 posted on 09/21/2019 8:53:27 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: marktwain
Democrats Refuse to Include Gang Members in “Red Flag” Laws Guess it’s obvious who the gangs vote for. 😝
23 posted on 09/21/2019 8:53:30 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: marktwain

24 posted on 09/21/2019 9:02:30 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: marktwain
MS-13 - okay
White conservatives - call Swat Team
25 posted on 09/21/2019 9:14:23 AM PDT by BipolarBob (You can't get mad at me. I'm the only friend you have on FR.)
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To: marktwain

Mess with the liberals’ minds.

Call your AR-15 an MS-13 and watch heads explode over whether to confiscate or leave alone.


26 posted on 09/21/2019 9:28:36 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: marktwain

When gang members have more rights than your average law biding gun owner, you know it’s time to own a gun.

Civil War II is nigh.


27 posted on 09/21/2019 9:49:16 AM PDT by RedMonqey (num)
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To: marktwain

Exactly who started this “Red Flag” business anyway? It is totally contrary to the Constitution it seems & if it was applied, it should apply only to known criminals,gang members,etc.


28 posted on 09/21/2019 9:54:07 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: marktwain
Wow. Just wow.

Just when you thought these Democratic legislators couldn't get any more upchuckably hypocritical....

29 posted on 09/21/2019 9:58:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For peace within your gates, speak truth and judge with sound judgment." - Zechariah 8:16)
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F that...


30 posted on 09/21/2019 10:00:41 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: marktwain

“....lease your car, lease your house, lease your boat, lease your plane..”

you own ANYTHING they WILL “red flag” you on behalf of their constituents


31 posted on 09/21/2019 10:01:42 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: EagleUSA

The Red Flag,White Nationalist,Proud Boys,MAGA,Right Wing,Christian etc etc defamation is no different than the Nazis singling out the Jew and eventual extermination or the murderous Soviet purges.


32 posted on 09/21/2019 10:37:49 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: marktwain; All

I’d love seeing these dems become MS13 victims.


33 posted on 09/21/2019 11:02:07 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: marktwain

This is all too typical of all their gun control initiatives. I’m not sure it’s because they identify with criminals, but rather that they are too afraid to attempt any confiscation. They seem to prefer the “one citizen at a time” approach, using full SWAT operations. It makes it easier to eliminate the citizens, as shown in more than one instance in Maryland.


34 posted on 09/21/2019 11:02:41 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: sport

” The police show at the subject’s door to take the subject’s guns. And they leave with them. And in some cases, the subject is taken to the morgue should they protest vociferous.”

How do your weenie gestapo cops get past my constitutional sheriff and his SWAT team?


35 posted on 09/21/2019 4:31:34 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: sergeantdave
You would have to ask them that. That poor guy in Maryland came out second best in his encounter with the police due to being Red Flagged. I read of some more that were killed as a result of being Red Flagged, but I can't recall the specifics. I have never been on the receiving end of being Red Flagged.

As far as the weenie gestapo cops are concerned, I am going to be as good to you as you were to me and give them back to you.

36 posted on 09/21/2019 4:53:28 PM PDT by sport
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To: lurk
Hello, Red Flag people? Yeah, hey, my neighbor is nuts. He played the Greenwood song Proud to be an American. Can you come take his guns?

Right away sir. Our armoured deputies will be right over to crash his door and search his house..

"Oh, by the way, everyone in the neighborhood knows you're coming..."

I suspect that it won't take too many of these events before some "manageable" situations are constructed, to the detriment of the responding LEO teams.

Just sayin'...

37 posted on 09/21/2019 5:59:02 PM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO. Still.)
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