Posted on 11/08/2019 5:53:39 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
He walked into court....
sure enough....GM said they did not get the required notices.
Sure enough....my son had the proof in hand. And he got his new replacement car.
Nice to hold the whip hand, isn’t it?
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Exactly. My opinion, property taxes and income taxes should both be outlawed—they are unconstitutional in spirit.
Similar thing happened with the DMV TWICE. Once had my truck was impounded. Second time it took me three months to clear up a clerical error the DMV made.
Nice!
By accepting the later years taxes, I’d say they had forgiven the $8.41.
Yes, I agree. The fact that they sent it doesn’t mean it was received by the intended recipient.
Is the tenor of this thread that he should have lost his house based on eight bucks? I wouldn’t be surprised since freepers wanted a Cracker Barrel employee fired when he gave a stale muffin to a homeless guy.
The tenor seems to be that the country screwed up the billing.
I’d say hanged. If it was legal it means the law making it legal is illegal.
County.
In 2011, Uri Rafaelis businessRafaeli, LLCpurchased a modest rental property in Southfield, Michigan for $60,000. Rafaeli inadvertently underpaid the propertys 2011 taxes. He paid his 2012, 2013 taxes in full. After learning he owed money for 2011, Rafaeli tried to pay the full 2011 tax debt in January, 2013. But he mistakenly did not factor in interest growing on the debt, and underpaid by $8.41. The County foreclosed on the property, sold it for $24,500, and pocket the massive windfall at Rafaelis expense.
Similarly, Andre Ohanessian owed $6,000 in taxes, penalties, interest, and fees when the County foreclosed and sold his property for $82,000. As with Rafaeli, the County kept all profits from the sale, rather than reimbursing Ohanessian.
https://pacificlegal.org/case/rafaeli-llc-v-oakland-county/
His lawyers have the burden of proof of showing the MI Supreme Court he never saw them.
prove a negative?
“But they don’t give a Mitt - their position is that it’s YOUR problem if they sent it to the wrong address.”
Then it’s THEIR problem if he paid the taxes but sent the check to the wrong address...right?
That’s the government way, if you make a mistake it is your problem and if they make a mistake it is...YOUR problem. It is NEVER their problem.
I ran into the ‘exact amount’ issue with tax payments. I asked our tax collector about pre-paying real estate taxes in advance of the tax law changes limiting deductions. I wanted to get in a tax payment before December 31st to beat the deadline. Tax bills were due to come out in January. She told me that if I estimated the tax payment and sent it in, she was not permitted to deposit it unless it was exactly correct. She said it was an internal auditing requirement. Fortunately she was a reasonable person and she faxed me the tax bills early, before they went in the mail so that I could get the payment in before yearend.
Also if the notice was sent to the house rather then to him as the owner he might have never have gotten the notice.
We had a credit card taken out in our name and a bill was run up. We managed to prove that it was fraud and it was taken off our record. Almost a decade later we got a bill from the IRS for tax on a "forgiven debt". After going around and around with them as we had never had a debt with that company we finally found out that this was the write off on the fraudulent card. IRS said we should have gotten a notice. Card company protested that they had sent us a notice. They did indeed sent a notice. To the address give by the thief, not to us.
the county should have turned over all but $8.41 from the sale to the owner, since that is all they are entitled to. IF they kept all of it, they stole from him.
But there auta be a law that delinquent prop taxes can only be collected a) upon sale to another party as part of escrow, or b) from the estate of the deceased. And then we wouldn’t have this problem that shouldn’t be a problem.
He had back-taxes but he sent the county/state a check for the full amount he owed.
But he misfigured the interest and owed $8.50 more.
They didn’t get ahold of him again about the few dollars he owed, they just sold it and pocketed the money.
...wiping away tears of laughter... Yeah, that'll be the day.
Believe it.
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