REPORT OF EVIDENCE IN THE DEMOCRATS’ IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

but he said that she said that her brothers friend said to his cousin that told his mom, Trump is a Bad Guy

I like your tagline~!

It’s very good. Very clear.

That said, I can’t imagine that there’s no way of appealing this insane “hearing” to the Supreme Court. How can a process with legal effect be allowed to violate virtually every single guarantee of due process under our Constitution?

The House makes its own rules, but that doesn’t mean that its rules are allowed to float in a space of their own, free from any adherence to constitutional norms.

Oh, brother. Have you even considered to read the report. You are clueless. Civil War - sorry, it’s not going to happen...it’s all bluster from your end.

Well, I watched/listened to the hearings and virtually all witnesses responded negatively when asked if they believed Trump committed a crime.

Case CLOSED.

NO MATTER HOW BADLY THE IMPEACHOCRATS WANT HEARSAY TO BE EVIDENCE, IT IS NOT EVIDENCE IN ANY COURT OF LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

The House does make its own rules and can impeach any way they want. The SC would never ever intervene in a House procedure. If you haven’t figured it out now, impeachment is a political process and no where does it say it has to be fair. It should be fair, but it isn’t. If the voters don’t like it, they can vote their reps out next November.

“...initial impression is good and I’m pleased with the seriousness.”

Exactly. This is a formal declaration by Republicans that the so-called “evidence” presented by Democrats is insufficient.

What this does is formally represent that no Republicans support impeachment, thus rendering it partisan and therefore invalid.

Weaponizing impeachment for partisan purposes is an unconstitutional abuse of power. This was a smart move, as it lays the groundwork for the Senate to discredit the Democrat impeachment as a partisan sham.

Beyond that, the Republicans are putting the nation on notice. They are formally accusing the Democrats of fabricating evidence. Which is a crime.

House Republicans Release Rebuttal Review of Democrat Impeachment Effort….

Posted on December 2, 2019 by sundance

In advance of the Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and Lawfare Committee releasing a highly partisan HPSCI report to facilitate a political impeachment effort, the House republicans have provided a proactive 123 page rebuttal report [pdf link here] the media will ignore.

A good encapsulation paragraph within the executive summary:

“The Democrats’ impeachment inquiry is not the organic outgrowth of serious misconduct; it is an orchestrated campaign to upend our political system. The Democrats are trying to impeach a duly elected President based on the accusations and assumptions of unelected bureaucrats who disagreed with President Trump’s policy initiatives and processes. They are trying to impeach President Trump because some unelected bureaucrats were discomforted by an elected President’s telephone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. They are trying to impeach President Trump because some unelected bureaucrats chafed at an elected President’s “outside the beltway” approach to diplomacy.”

[link to House pdf version of report]

1. President Trump has a deep-seated, genuine, and reasonable skepticism of Ukraine due to its history of pervasive corruption.

2. President Trump has a long-held skepticism of U.S. foreign assistance and believes that Europe should pay its fair share for mutual defense.

3. President Trump’s concerns about Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board are valid. The Obama State Department noted concerns about Hunter Biden’s relationship with Burisma in 2015 and 2016.

4. There is indisputable evidence that senior Ukrainian govt officials opposed President Trump in 2016 and did so publicly. It has been reported that a DNC operative worked with Ukrainian officials, including the Ukrainian Embassy, to dig up dirt on then-candidate Trump.

5. The evidence does not establish that President Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election for the purpose of benefiting him in the 2020 election.

6. The evidence does not establish that President Trump withheld a meeting with President Zelensky for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.

7. The evidence does not support that President Trump withheld U.S. security assistance to Ukraine for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.

8. The evidence does not support that President Trump orchestrated a shadow foreign policy apparatus for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.

9. The evidence does not support that President Trump covered up the substance of his telephone conversation with President Zelensky by restricting access to the call summary.

10. President Trump’s assertion of longstanding claims of executive privilege is a legitimate response to an unfair, abusive, and partisan process, and does not constitute obstruction of a legitimate impeachment inquiry.

SUMMARY – The evidence does NOT prove the Democrats’ allegations that President Trump abused his authority to pressure Ukraine to investigate his potential political rival, Vice President Joe Biden, for President Trump’s benefit in the 2020 presidential election.

Here’s the full report:

NO MATTER HOW BADLY THE IMPEACHOCRATS WANT HEARSAY TO BE EVIDENCE, IT IS NOT EVIDENCE IN ANY COURT OF LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

After all of the witnesses determined there was no bribery involved, Pelosi made the comment that the Democrat portion of the House will determine what constitutes bribery and what does not...They will not defer to the dweebs who make up the common people...

So there you have it...Trump is guilty of bribery...

“O MATTER HOW BADLY THE IMPEACHOCRATS WANT HEARSAY TO BE EVIDENCE, IT IS NOT EVIDENCE IN ANY COURT OF LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!”

This isn’t going before a court of law, it’s going before the House. And they can vote however they please. If they have the votes, they will impeach. It doesn’t sound like its going to be very bipartisan though.

Anybody know about R defectors in the house?

“O MATTER HOW BADLY THE IMPEACHOCRATS WANT HEARSAY TO BE EVIDENCE, IT IS NOT EVIDENCE IN ANY COURT OF LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!”

This isn’t going before a court of law, it’s going before the House. And they can vote however they please. If they have the votes, they will impeach. It doesn’t sound like its going to be very bipartisan though.

Anybody know about R defectors in the house?

I’m not sure that you and I are on the same page.

Read the actual report!

impeachment is a political process...

Impeachment occurs within the framework of the Constitution. In that sense it's a legal process.

and no where does it say it has to be fair. It should be fair, but it isn’t. If the voters don’t like it, they can vote their reps out next November.

The same applies in all legal processes. Doesn't make those processes not legal.

Trump will wear this “Impeached President” label like a piece of jewelry.

The treatise says “the sum and substance of the impeachment inquiry is ...blah-blah-blah...”
Fact is, it’s pure old hatred.

Since when do Democrats need evidence? They will impeach Trump just because they can, not because they need or have evidence.

And the hallowed FR tradition of ‘not-reading-the-article’ carries on.

Yesterday, there was someone that asked for a summary of an article because he claimed that it was behind a paywall and he couldn't see it.

He was lying because USA Today is NOT behind a paywall.

I think a lot of people are just lazy, don’t bother to read beyond the headline and first comment, and simply make assumptions.

(A lot of people are also afraid of clicking on links.)

“They note the Democrats use of Trump’s phrase during the conversation “I would like you to do us a favor though–” to present the appearance that Trump was pressuring Zelensky.”

Yeah, whenever I ask TO DO ME A FAVOR, it’s always assumed that pressure is behind the request..... DO IT or there will be consequences!!!!

I think we have the answer to the problem here, people. PDJT’s haters ALWAYS assume anything he says/does is done with evil intentions. If you think everything PDJT does/says/thinks/believes is impeachable/dooming the republic/unconstitutional, maybe you are the problem.

Sad LOL but true.

Found this this piece on the net last night that I thinks explains a bit why we are going through this mess.

From WikiLeaks, not exactly a pro-freedom site....

In 2011, the Obama administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency's use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans' communications in its massive databases. The searches take place under a surveillance program Congress authorized in 2008 under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the target must be a foreigner "reasonably believed" to be outside the United States, and the court must approve the targeting procedures in an order good for one year. But a warrant for each target would thus no longer be required. That means that communications with Americans could be picked up without a court first determining that there is probable cause that the people they were talking to were terrorists, spies or "foreign powers". The FISC also extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years with an extension possible for foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purposes. Both measures were done without public debate or any specific authority from Congress.[