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#Breaking First footage of the Ukrainian airplane while on fire falling near #Tehran
Twitter ^ | Ali Hashem

Posted on 01/07/2020 9:30:47 PM PST by Kevin in California

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To: Nifster

Yes, see my comment above. They thought it was an American RC-135 spy plane.


81 posted on 01/08/2020 7:52:19 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's called the "Statue of Liberty" and not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Bon mots

Bingo!


82 posted on 01/08/2020 8:22:30 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: miserare

Can the Amish join the Navy?


83 posted on 01/08/2020 8:25:01 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That is possible.


84 posted on 01/08/2020 11:04:41 AM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: VTenigma

I saw that too.

The high school French Club from my town (Montoursville, Pa.) were on it.
17 kids and 6 chaperones ...IIRC.

I knew some of the parents. So devastating.

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of all those on the Ukrainian plane.

My sympathies to our Canadian neighbors.


85 posted on 01/08/2020 11:10:37 AM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: Kevin in California

Shot down......737’s don’t crash from 8,000 feet from an engine failure, they trim the jet and return to the airfield. The video shows a large fire and debris coming of the aircraft in a shallow dive. Shot down after loss of engine and flight control and or dead pilots in cockpit.


86 posted on 01/08/2020 11:27:33 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: JerseyDvl

I think that was what their plan was except Trump didn’t fire a shot. So now they have to come out and tell us all it was a mechanical issue


87 posted on 01/08/2020 11:35:06 AM PST by shotgun
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To: Mat_Helm

Agree.


88 posted on 01/08/2020 11:35:44 AM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: NorseViking

Very interesting.


89 posted on 01/08/2020 11:37:12 AM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: zeestephen; All

WAPO has an article about the passengers today. Very, very sad.

Two newlywed couples, 15 students from Sharif Uni, many brilliant students, engineers, professionals.

Several family groups. 16 children.

many Iranian-Canadians, all well-respected and well thought-of. A dentist, some shop owners, two professors, several engineers.

When you put names and faces to the numbers, it is more than just another disaster. It is a great tragedy.


90 posted on 01/08/2020 12:16:12 PM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: gnarledmaw

Agreed, and good catch.

The same fuel flare out you see, exist from a couple of angles, and is evidence puncture/rupture. It is actually telling, we don’t see a much larger fireball.

Obviously, there was a lot of destruction midair.

With the caveat we still have little imagery or footage, the vertical falling “flare out”, works well with the largely vertical and broad debris field, where we can clearly see hundrends or thousands of small charred pieces of wreckage, but little to know ground scorching, and no pitting or directional damage to walls, and almost no trenching.

It is clear the plane was violently destroyed in flight.

In one image, an internal portion of engine was severely deformed with scorch marks, but just laying on the ground. It simply fell to where it is on the ground.

It goes without need for explanation, the dynamics of a large explosion, can and will, very quickly, end the speed and flight direction of an aircraft.

As well, the flaring footage we do see is already low in altitude, and well after initial explosion.

Again, no need for explanation, something violent initially happened which caused witnesses on the ground to both look, and go for their cameras, and try to capture some video.

This Boeing 737 was obliterated in flight.

Large/broad debris field, covered with small charred pieces of plane/debris, is evidence of large in flight explosion/detonation

What caused the plane to be violently destroyed in flight is the only question.

The 737 was clearly NOT destroyed upon ground impact.


91 posted on 01/08/2020 12:47:50 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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To: miserare

The fact that Sandy Berger destroyed evidence in the National Archives doesn’t make me feel any better. Clinton wanted desperately to avoid a confrontation with Iran. He just wanted to broom the whole mess, and he did so.


92 posted on 01/08/2020 2:27:50 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Every election is more or less an advance auction of stolen goods. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes. Sandy Burger with secret files down his pants. I remember.

Clinton was and is a treacherous rat.


93 posted on 01/08/2020 2:49:19 PM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: Kevin in California
https://youtu.be/b69Tmxwbb_w

Video of surface to air missile impacting Ukranian commercial airline leaving Tehran Airport.

94 posted on 01/09/2020 12:44:32 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm

https://youtu.be/b69Tmxwbb_w


95 posted on 01/09/2020 12:44:52 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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