Posted on 01/07/2020 9:30:47 PM PST by Kevin in California
The plane was trying to maneuver from my view but it was on fire and control,visibility, instruments, etc. were likely limited. RIP.
Not to mention the official theory is just plain stupid. A jet’s fuel tanks should contain next to no oxygen and I assume they would have bleeder valves to prevent over pressure from expanding fuel. This would push all other gases out with it.
My guess - mistakenly shot down by Iran?
Second question...
Why would 180 people from Ukraine want to go to Tehran?
They are not neighbors.
Kiev to Tehran is almost 2,000 miles.
Mostly Canadian and Iranian passengers:
https://twitter.com/Aviation_NewsTW/status/1214808803528458242
Ah, the MANPADS...
You may well be right on this.
The tiny but mighty MANPADS are really easy to store hidden as well.
Between 2013-2016 timeframe, Russia is believed to have sent tens of thousands of MANPADS to points south and southwest. The locations include Russian occupied Donbas Ukraine (along the Ukrainian/Russian LOC, and Ukrainian coal and gas trends and ground extraction infrastructure), Crimean Peninsula, Transnistria, Daghestan, Iran, Egypt, Libya (and likely unknown storage in Tripoli), Eritria, Sudan, Venezuela, Guatemala, Nicaragua (likely triangulated around Russian SIGINT/ELINT posts, and the spetsnaz brigade ops), and a few other locations.
Easy and cheap way to shoot down, or create chaos with commercial and transport air traffic. They have also become an increaaing concern for UAS routes as well.
IF, I were doing BDA (while not conclusive), from the little info we do have and can see (which is not much), I’d say leaning toward PROBABLE, this aircraft was in tiny charred pieces before it hit the ground.
As well, I am leaning toward large debris field.
Notice at least one area, where the walls and manmade structures are intact, with lots of debris strune throughout the standing structures. This is strong indication of falling debris, vs lateral travelling debris.
And of course, the Obamanations good buddies in Iran would never do such a thing... /s
an iranian defensive ploy to stall u.s. retaliation...
According to Wiki, just 1%.
82% are Christian and 16% are non-religious.
Thanks for the passenger update.
I am surprised about the Canadians.
I wonder what the most important link is between Iran and Canada?
Good question on the Canadians....maybe contractors of some sort bailing out before it gets too bad in country for foreigners? Canadians of Iranian background visiting family? (About 150K Iranian-Canadians I think).
Real irony would be if the plane crashed into the million-MAN funeral procession for General Qassem Soleimani. (parts, anyway).
Sorry, but that is tinfoil hat nonsense. There would have been hundreds of witnesses on the ship, for one thing. I always suspected that an Iranian tub fired a missile as revenge for the Vincennes incident. I do not dismiss the possibility that this incident was an Iranian attempt to avenge Soleimanni on the nearest Western target available.
I saw the missile streak up to the airliner on CNN. Years before they went full commie.
Yep - didn’t get the word that if they could see and reach it, it wasn’t one of ours...
The object reversed direction very quickly, twice. I don’t understand how an airplane could have done that.
Have you had a chance to see the full clip? I dont know much about such things but Im pretty sure you are correct. Just before it hits there is a huge flare, not quite an explosion, that suggested to me that the fuel tank had ruptured or something. From that point forward Im sure that there were no people or an aircraft left just a spray of flaming char.
I saw the footage when it aired too. It was undeniably shot down by a missle. At no point in any of the footage does the missle say “Brought to you by the United States Navy.” There were no eyewitnesses that claimed it was the navy either.
I cant disprove any Navy involvement. Their supposed involvement is based on proximity and someone reporting divers subsequently coming up with a rocket motor that looked like one of ours. That doesn’t prove they did it, only that they practice out there which we already knew.
All we really have to go on is the witnesses that saw it shot down and the millions of us including myself that saw it shot down second hand in “imaginary” footage that we all just happened to simultaneously dream up.
There is one other thing we have and thats the asinine physics bending official story. The lie is so ridiculous that we know that someone that was fedgov, probably Clintons, knows the truth of who launched. We just dont factually know who/why.
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