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New photos show convicted Nazi guard John Demjanjuk at Sobibor
thelocal.de ^ | 20 January 2020 | AFP Wire

Posted on 01/20/2020 6:04:10 AM PST by babble-on

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To: NFHale

Well we did have a Cold War for 45 years with the Russians and won.

Now their heir apparent Putin, a mass murderer in his own right is our “most favored dictator” but that’s a matter for another thread.

We also fought Korea and Vietnam against the Chinese.


41 posted on 01/20/2020 8:08:05 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Ouderkirk
Was Hitler as they portray him?

Barry Goldwater was frequently likened to Hitler by his enemies as were the Bushes. President Trump is routinely called a latter-day Hitler.

If these thoroughly decent men were like Hitler, then maybe Hitler wasn't such a bad guy.

42 posted on 01/20/2020 8:15:51 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: David Chase

Sobibor,
Yup ,true Story.


43 posted on 01/20/2020 8:27:46 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Magnatron

The article is a complete nothing-burger, without any new photo at all!


44 posted on 01/20/2020 8:30:15 AM PST by bkopto
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To: Leaning Right

I recommend the book OPERATON PAPERCLIP.

“In the chaos following World War II, some of the greatest spoils of Germany’s resources were the Third Reich’s scientific minds. The U.S. government secretly decided that the value of these former Nazis’ knowledge outweighed their crimes and began a covert operation code-named Paperclip to allow them to work in the U.S. without the public’s full knowledge.”

https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Paperclip-Intelligence-Program-Scientists/dp/0316221031


45 posted on 01/20/2020 8:30:42 AM PST by euclid216
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To: Williams

“isolationist”

Its hard to imagine a less useful description of the America First worldview in the age of Trump.


46 posted on 01/20/2020 8:36:23 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Leaning Right

“Side note: As I said before, I like a lot of Buchanan’s ideas. So it pains me to have to make this post.”

I appreciated Buchanan on Crossfire for years but his views on WWII were bizarre. All of these public figures and politicians have strengths and weaknesses. It is appropriate to hold them accountable and call them out as needed. No sacred cows or idols.


47 posted on 01/20/2020 9:05:30 AM PST by plain talk
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To: mac_truck

Post Buchanan doesn’t come from the age of Trump. PB is a true isolationist.


48 posted on 01/20/2020 9:56:23 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: plain talk

Pat B is simply wrong on these issues but I view him as a combative tough guy not afraid to be called names.


49 posted on 01/20/2020 9:57:50 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: babble-on

This is so 2001

Let’s beat up Pat Buchanan

Oh the glory days when virtue signaling was so obnoxiously prevalent here

“You’re an anti Semite!”

“You’re a racist!”

Blah blah blah

Buchanan has done more than any loudmouth on this forum and he was right about culture war decades before your average republican was


50 posted on 01/20/2020 10:04:19 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: babble-on
New photos have emerged

75 years later they can match the black and white picture of a 20 year old to that of a now deceased man?

I recently attended the 50th wedding anniversary of a close friend and the invitation included a color photo of their original wedding day. Never would have recognized him if his name wasn't on the invitation........

I've never once believed the charges against him. Conscripted into the Russian army, then taken prisoner by the Germans and then they make him a prison guard? That doesn't make any sense at all........

51 posted on 01/20/2020 10:15:36 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Williams

That is exactly right. Pat has many strengths as well as being Loco on WWII


52 posted on 01/20/2020 10:22:26 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Leaning Right

Vichy Pat


53 posted on 01/20/2020 10:26:21 AM PST by QualityMan
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To: babble-on

I was given Pat’s book “Death of the West” as a gift back in 2001.

Read a chapter or two then life got in the way. Never finished reading it until this past year. I was curious how right he was.

Pat was spot on.


54 posted on 01/20/2020 10:52:46 AM PST by setter
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To: Magnatron

55 posted on 01/20/2020 12:20:49 PM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: Magnatron

Article says the photos will be published in a new book presented in Berlin on January 28th. Reading is your friend.


56 posted on 01/20/2020 12:28:41 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Big Red Badger

Read the article.


57 posted on 01/20/2020 12:29:01 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: babble-on

The evidence was always shaky which is why the Israeli’s themselves acquitted him. I am very dubious about pictures surfacing now, when they spent decades scouring the earth for information from any and every WW2 concentration camp that might have something concerning his history. Suddenly new photos appear?

Why aren’t the photos being shown publicly if they exist? Likely it is a stretch of imagination and so better to talk about them then let people see how flimsy the claim is.


58 posted on 01/20/2020 12:36:53 PM PST by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: Williams

Buchanan doesn’t claim that the British “mismanaged” the war. He claims that Hitler was a peaceful man who was goaded into the war by Churchill. He basically calls Churchill a warmonger who foisted war on the innocent Hitler.

His over the top defense of the indefensible Hitler is why he is sidelined.


59 posted on 01/20/2020 1:33:48 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: babble-on

I do think however, there were mitigating circumstances that made him different than a German/Austrian Guard.

German guards volunteered for the duty.

Being a captured Red Army soldier, Demjanjuk had the choice of either working as a Camp Guard or being shot.


60 posted on 01/20/2020 1:37:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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