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New photos show convicted Nazi guard John Demjanjuk at Sobibor
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| 20 January 2020
| AFP Wire
Posted on 01/20/2020 6:04:10 AM PST by babble-on
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Was always so strange how much Pat Buchanan loved this man.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:04:10 AM PST
by
babble-on
To: babble-on
The Israeli Supreme Court that acquitted him, cant say, oops! Oh well.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:07:23 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: babble-on
I didn’t know about that
Did Pat at least think the guy was innocent?
Either way, better to stay away.
And it’s worse than strange if Pat just didn’t care.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:11:07 AM PST
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
To: babble-on
New photos show convicted Nazi guard John Demjanjuk at Sobibor These are great, but it would be much, much more important and useful to uncover photos of Soros.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:15:14 AM PST
by
The Sons of Liberty
(Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
To: babble-on
“Was always so strange how much Pat Buchanan loved this man.”
Pat had some really good points regarding immigration, basically (and correctly) predicting the end of Europe and the potential end of the US (if conservatives sit out the November election because they don’t like so-and-so RINO on the ticket), but when it came to Hitler, Israel, etc...he’s out there on his own. He really did have a shot at the White House in 1992, but the intensity that he had defending the indefensible sickened far too many people, including me.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:16:05 AM PST
by
BobL
(I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
To: babble-on
No photos in an article exposing that new photos were uncovered???
Who runs this outlet?
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:19:06 AM PST
by
Magnatron
To: The Sons of Liberty
Soros was a Nazi death camp guard? No, he was a 12 year old boy.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:21:01 AM PST
by
babble-on
To: babble-on
“Soros was a Nazi death camp guard? No, he was a 12 year old boy.”
Soros was pressed into service by the Nazis to collect the belongings of fellow Jews sent to death camps.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:23:32 AM PST
by
brownsfan
(Behold, the power of government cheese.)
To: goldstategop
A guard at a NAZI death camp? Sounds like a guy Joe Biden would hang out with
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:24:26 AM PST
by
Fai Mao
(There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
To: babble-on
He died an innocent man (since his case was on appeal). He enjoyed the notoriety. His family supported him all the way to the bitter end.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:25:00 AM PST
by
BushCountry
(thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg"r)
To: babble-on
Died: 17 March 2012. Let's dig him up and hang him.
To: babble-on
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:26:30 AM PST
by
brownsfan
(Behold, the power of government cheese.)
To: BobL
Good post yours. I really like a lot of Buchanans ideas. But he has a dark side. In his book Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War, Buchanan blames the British for everything, and the Germans for nothing. In particular, he defends Hitlers pre-war diplomatic aggression.
Ive got a feeling that had Buchanan lived in German-occupied France, he would have been a willing collaborator.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:27:13 AM PST
by
Leaning Right
(I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
To: brownsfan
It’s my understanding he’s called that the best year of his life.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:29:27 AM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: DuncanWaring
“Its my understanding hes called that the best year of his life.”
I’ve read that, but if you watch the 60 minutes interview I’ve posted and don’t come away thinking he’s a scumbag, well, we have no common ground.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:31:17 AM PST
by
brownsfan
(Behold, the power of government cheese.)
To: babble-on
I'd forgotten a lot about this case but recently watched a documentary on it and refreshed it all. He was being railroaded for being "Ivan the Terrible", the worst of the worst. A sadist who mutilated people with a sword before pushing them into a gas chamber while laughing. There wasn't much real info on Ivan the Terrible, just legends and stories. There was no hard evidence really except one ID card and photo that showed a trainee who resembled Demjanjuk and had the name Ivan instead of John at a different camp, and a bunch of 80 year olds who said they recognize him from 45 years prior (one of whom said he'd taken a train from Germany to Miami to meet with US officials and identify Demjanjuk). I remember this time and there were a lot of people who thought he wasn't getting treated fairly. And in fact, he'd absolutely have been convicted of being Ivan the Terrible if the soviet union hadn't fallen and archival info there proved beyond much doubt that he just plain wasn't. They had actual photos and descriptions of Ivan taken from the camps directly and he was a short guy with dark hair and definitely not Demjanjuk who was tall and blonde. Oops.
But there was a second trial and he was convicted of being a guard at a different camp, not the worst monster of the whole thing. Based on the evidence and his own shaky story, that seems right.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:33:54 AM PST
by
pepsi_junkie
(Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
To: babble-on
My basic opinion on the subject of Nazi war crimes is that in terms of basic culpability...moral culpability...the older you were,and the higher rank you were,the more you have to answer for before God.
Germans,Austrians (and others) were executed for disobeying Nazi orders. That includes in the military as well as civilian administration. IMO there are some occasions...and perhaps many...where a *junior* soldier,or civilian,could almost be forgiven when claiming "I was only following orders".
It must be noted that among many...if not most...of the younger participants in the genocide the Hitler Youth played a huge role in their formative years.
Assuming that there's at least some validity in what I've said I certainly cannot be sure that that can be applied to Demjanjuk.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:35:41 AM PST
by
Gay State Conservative
(The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
To: brownsfan
I’ve known for years he was a scumbag, even without watching the interview.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:38:25 AM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: pepsi_junkie
I believe Buchannan felt he deserved only a fair trial. As for the dark side I’d just point out his choice of VP on the Reform ticket-some black female communist. Just wanted to keep himself relevant like the rest of them. He’s like Savage and O’riely. Gotta keep them all at arms length.
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:41:04 AM PST
by
DIRTYSECRET
(urope. Why do they put up with this.)
To: Magnatron
Can we Find
These Photos?
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posted on
01/20/2020 6:41:34 AM PST
by
Big Red Badger
(Despised by the Despicable!)
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