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China expands coronavirus outbreak lockdown to 56 million people
Al Jazeera ^ | 3 hours ago | Al Jazeera and news agencies

Posted on 01/25/2020 1:41:11 AM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: yldstrk

I keep saying this.

“Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity”

The government of China is not trying to reduce its population by a plague - which is clearly your implied assertion.

IF THIS WERE A RELEASED BIOLOGICAL WARFARE AGENT IT WOULD HAVE A HIGHER MORTALITY RATE THAN 4% AND TAKE LESS THAN 2 OR 3 WEEKS TO KILL ITS VICTIMS!!!!!!

This was caused by poor hygiene and eating things that should not be eaten.

I’ve lived in Wuhan. It’s a dirty industrial city on the shores of a polluted river. I can easily imagine a virus mutating there.


41 posted on 01/25/2020 5:03:39 AM PST by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Fai Mao

Hey Fai,

I never “implied” the escaped weaponized virus devastating your country’s city Wuhan was let loose deliberately. No, not at all. By carelessness, or by somebody trying to sell it to somebody or by some other form of heedlessness, carelessness or greed. And the fact that your twisted, hideous government is even admitting to 40 plus deaths (despite needing to build two hospitals in two days and requisitioning 10,000 beds) means only one thing—the menace from this virus is much much worse than what has been admitted. Now your twisted government had banned individual automobiles, denying people the means to escape and basically admitting everyone in Wuhan will be locked in with the virus as it works its devastation.


42 posted on 01/25/2020 5:19:54 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Someone posted this link yesterday. Thought I would pass it along. Pretty interesting.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


43 posted on 01/25/2020 5:37:05 AM PST by suthener
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To: wastoute

Not a good idea to let a virus decide who stays and who goes.


44 posted on 01/25/2020 5:53:51 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: super7man

Urban Death Zones will be hardest hit. NYC and LA may very well be changed demographically for a generation in the coming weeks.


45 posted on 01/25/2020 6:00:23 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

I would suggest that rather than New York, San Francisco will be the hardest hit. I believe that San Francisco has more incoming traffic from China than New York and La either one.

Further, New York does not have the concentrations of tent and street dwellers

I would think that India should be on very high alert and taking every possible precaution


46 posted on 01/25/2020 6:09:19 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: HighSierra5

China has gone bat soup crazy.


47 posted on 01/25/2020 6:14:55 AM PST by xp38
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To: Spktyr
It would seem that shortages of consumable/perishable items would be an obvious thing in a city of what, eight million?

A quarantine of the city will get ugly fast. The worst case is very bad... however now that it's happened we can pray that it will blow over quickly, somehow...

The angle about Xi and the digital currency/social credit is intriguing and unfortunate...

48 posted on 01/25/2020 6:24:17 AM PST by OKSooner (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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To: wastoute
And San Fran. And Houston.

...come to think of it, many Universities which have large Chinese student populations.

49 posted on 01/25/2020 6:27:19 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: suthener
Here is a better link:

https://3g.dxy.cn/newh5/view/pneumonia

It's a Chinese health website that updates, essentially, real time.

In the realm of really bad news, it jumped. Beijing reported five (5) new cases at 17:00 1/25/2020. Two (2) of those had no contact history in Hubei (Wuhan is the the province capital)

The R-0 (rate of infection per infected), through multiple sources is being locked down at 2.5. For every person infected that person will, on average, infect 2.5 persons. The typical flu has an R-0 of 1.4, Spanish Flu had an R-0 of 1.6. Spanish Influenza killed 1% of the global population, this thing has an expected mortality rate two to three times that while being 50% more virulent.

50 posted on 01/25/2020 6:28:09 AM PST by Brellium ("Thou shalt not shilly shally!" Aron Nimzowitsch)
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To: grey_whiskers

All one need to is stay away from libtards and you’re safe.


51 posted on 01/25/2020 6:28:40 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: yldstrk

What’s a couple of zeroes between friends?


52 posted on 01/25/2020 6:30:06 AM PST by OKSooner (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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To: grey_whiskers

Don’t almost ALL large Universities have significant Chinese student populations?


53 posted on 01/25/2020 6:31:34 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: wastoute

People in BOTH of these urban areas....and, ALL urban areas, are able to freely move about the country.

It woouldn’t just affect those areas.


54 posted on 01/25/2020 6:33:01 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

Densely populated urban areas are naturally going to have a much higher rate of transmission.


55 posted on 01/25/2020 6:34:14 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Jane Long

Densely populated urban areas are naturally going to have a much higher rate of transmission.


56 posted on 01/25/2020 6:34:14 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Agree....my point was....it won’t just stay in those areas.


57 posted on 01/25/2020 6:37:05 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Hieronymus
An eastern version of the analogy could likely be run, by I’m from the west. I think that North Carolina and West Virginia would give you about the right population for the present quarantine.

I think that is about right. Pennsylvania would be another good comparison, both numbers-wise and because it contains our sixth-largest city.

58 posted on 01/25/2020 6:39:05 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: yldstrk

China is not my country. I just lived there. My wife is from Shanghai. I lived in Hong Kong for many years

So fine, it isn’t that they purposely released the pathogen but that they are just too incompetent to keep it under wraps. If you want to believe that I can’t stop you. But, the pathogen was caused by poor hygiene and sanitation.

I agree with people that say this situation has been downplayed by the PRC government. The virus has probably affected many more than is being reported and killed many more than is being reported. In fact, I KNOW from friends in Wuhan that this is the case. All the more reason to keep the pathogen contained locally.

Do the math. 1.4 billion people live in China. If this disease is easily communicable and nobody has immunity then even a fairly low mortality rate of 4% that equals 56 million dead. Because almost everyone will get the disease. That is assuming the mortality rate is actually 4%.

The PRC GOVERNMENT DESERVES A LOT OF CRITICISM FOR A LOT OF THINGS. This is not one of them. Imposing a quarantine to control the spread of an infectious disease that could kill millions of people is not one of them. You really don’t want people who have been infected with a potentially deadly pathogen but who are not yet symptomatic fleeing the area. Telling people to stay home. Restricting travel. Go out as little as possible. Wear a mask. Go to the hospital if you are sick and don’t leave town are NORMAL quarantine measures. So yeah, keeping potentially infected people from fleeing, by force if necessary, is a good thing. You should be glad the PRC government is doing it.

If this pathogen had arisen in LA or NYC you can bet that the US government would have taken similar measures. They would be hateful monsters if they didn’t. It is standard practice in such cases. Look at how Ebola is outbreaks in Africa are handled. They do the same thing.


59 posted on 01/25/2020 6:41:12 AM PST by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: bert

https://twitter.com/brianinIdaho/status/1221063840068227072?s=20

Video from inside Wuhan


60 posted on 01/25/2020 6:47:44 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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