Look at this map. Doesn't look good for NATO&ISIS forces. Resembles Stalingrad a little bit but also includes a hint on what is a good thing to do. Turkey is located Northwest of it. 
Posted on 02/05/2020 9:29:40 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
*** but WE said we were leaving ***
Well, WE lied. I know people who deployed to Syria in December. Not exactly an exit strategy.
The follies and failures you refer to are in part why Trump was elected. The remedy for a bad strategy is to get a better strategy and a better strategist who recognizes unappealing truths. Along those lines, under Trump, we now seem to see that Islam is problematic and that its pathologies are at the heart of much of the ills of Muslim societies and peoples.
Mr. President, this is not a promise kept. Bring our boys home. Secure the border, not Syria’s.
The inconvenient truth is that we have no right to be in Syria.
I know that there are some on this site who would love to go full Nazi on, not only the Russian military, but on the Russian people, and wipe them off the face of the earth.
But the fact remains that Russia was invited into Syria. The two nations have been allied for decades, like it or not. We were not invited into Syria.
We should not only leave Syria but leave the Middle East, period. To put is simply, just let them continue to do what they’ve done successfully for centuries: Kill each other. We should just grab some popcorn and watch. The US has already suffered too many dead and maimed soldiers for these ridiculous foreign adventures.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Let’s go back to what the Founding Fathers said about staying out of foreign entanglements. Nothing good comes from being involved. We aren’t the most hated nation in history for nothing. We don’t even have any allies whom we can really trust.
I’m for leaving Nato and the UN. I realize that’s only a dream, but we would be much better off.
In August 2016, the well-respected veteran diplomat signed an open letter denouncing then-presidential candidate Trump as a danger to America. “In our experience,” Jeffrey and dozens of fellow “Never Trumpers” wrote, “a president must be willing to listen to his advisers and department heads [and] must encourage consideration of conflicting views.” Trump, they argued, is “erratic” and “acts impetuously.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/20/james-jeffrey-syria-trump-1071956
Get rid of him Mr. President.
Isolationist policies are not realistic these days due to the global reach of modern communications and weapons. For example, even after the Cold War, Russia spent heavily to improve and maintain the capacity to destroy the US with nuclear missiles. And apart from established hostile nuclear powers like Russia and China, without US military deterrence and action, any of dozens of countries or terrorist groups could develop or buy a nuclear weapon and put it on a merchant ship, exploding it after arrival in a US port or delivering it via a cruise missile. The same goes for biological and chemical weapons.
As for Syria, we intervened militarily because of ISIL. After 9/11, we are determined not to let anti-American terrorists establish sanctuaries. And we do not wait for them to invite us in. I am confident that the Founding Fathers would approve of such a policy as consistent with their own realism and dedication to American security and national interest.
Look at this map. Doesn't look good for NATO&ISIS forces. Resembles Stalingrad a little bit but also includes a hint on what is a good thing to do. Turkey is located Northwest of it.
Human rights watch reported a street brawl where apparently US soldiers sent Russians to the hospital
Try again. ISIS was on Assad payroll. All were fascist communist megalomaniac Baath party
Nobody with a brain buys it anymore.
I remember John McCain posing for a photo with ISIS leaders pledging US support.
Second in commands in ISIS was trained in Georgia by USMC.
Now go show me a picture of Assad with any of them.
Yep, there is no such picture.
I thought we were getting out of Syria?
“” “” Human rights watch reported a street brawl where apparently US soldiers sent Russians to the hospital””” “
‘Human rights watch’ you are talking about is a single Palestinian terrorist propagandist sitting in London.
He pulls his reports out of you know what.
The policing of third world shitholes being overwhelmingly rejected by the people played a big role in that outcome.
I remember Trump promised to stop this.
Can we get an author who knows that Russia and Syria have been allied since the nineteen fifties and that it really is Syria’s country?
All this drivel which invents it’s own little world as a starting point and then proceeds to postulate a position only valid in it’s own little world gets old.
In the post-WW II era we are caught in a fundamental strategic dilemma of how much to allocate against major power adversaries versus Third World policing. I see the election result and the Trump strategy as a renewal of the Reagan approach of a military buildup and concentrating on the main adversary (China, today) while avoiding commitments of large forces to Third World conflicts. In the meanwhile, tax cuts, deregulation, and trade deals revive American economic, cultural, and political power. Go read the declassified Reagan era national security memoranda and one cannot but be struck by how they seem to anticipate the Trump strategy.
I don’t have to... I wrote the original drafts that became the Trump platform.
[Well, considering they are there at the invitation of the Syrian government]
James Jeffrey is doing a terrible job over there.
He is strongly sucking up to Erdoo the Islamist Dictator of Turkey. (yes they are NATO) Turkey is the chief financier of the Islamist Terrorists and is a committed expansionist power.
I have no problem with Assad and Iran both going south. But Turkey is not to be trusted. Ever.
All of your charges lack one major idea. What do you see as a viable alternative to Assad’s Syria?
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