US diplomat: Russian-controlled forces risking conflict with American troops in Syria

Washington examiner ^ | 2/5/2020 | Joel gehrke

[Zhang Fei]

[All of your charges lack one major idea. What do you see as a viable alternative to Assad’s Syria?]

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Three separate countries.

[NorseViking]

Do you think Syrian agree or it doesn’t matter?

[NorseViking]

Turkish opposition has just delivered a five point ultamatum to Erdogan of this. The main idea is to abandon regime change agenda and get out of Syria.

[Zhang Fei]

[Can we get an author who knows that Russia and Syria have been allied since the nineteen fifties and that it really is Syria’s country?]

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The Soviets funded and supplied a Nazi-Soviet hybrid (aka Baathist) regime ruled by a 10% religious minority that combined the best of both ideologies, and we’re supposed to lower our voices and genuflect in the presence of this sacred bond?

[NorseViking]

Let’s say Baathist regimes provided their citizens higher living standards than most the alternatives.

[Zhang Fei]

[Do you think Syrian agree or it doesn’t matter?]

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The Russians don’t care what Sunni Arabs or Kurds want. They just want their 10% minority in power so they can polish Russian boots with their tongues and, in time, become governors in Russia’s newest oblast. Gives a whole new perspective to the expression “spit shine”.

[Zhang Fei]

[Let’s say Baathist regimes provided their citizens higher living standards than most the alternatives.]

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This must be why pre-war incomes in Syria were a fraction of neighboring Lebanon’s or Turkey’s. Because the best elements of Nazi-Soviet ideology are just the ticket for good government.

[Zhang Fei]

[I know that there are some on this site who would love to go full Nazi on, not only the Russian military, but on the Russian people, and wipe them off the face of the earth.]

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The only thing anyone wants of the Russians is that they stop attempting to expand their borders. They are already almost 2x the size of the next largest countries in the world. We don’t need them getting any bigger.

[NorseViking]

Turkey is more a European country and shouldn’t be compared to Middle East.
Lebanon is an exception as a semi-functiinal liberal society but it comes at a price of instability. There is no reason to believe Syria would be at least as functional in such a form.

[Texas Fossil]

Our motivation is not to take Syria.

It is a combination of things. Primarily loyalty to allies in the region. Israel for one. But others.

Iran and Syria are both terrorist sponsor states and both hate Israel and the West.

We fought alongside many in Syria who helped us Defeat ISIS. That has not brought them the respect they should have in the Region, largely because Turkey supports and supported ISIS and other Jihadi Terrorists.

Right now, our Jeffrey is sucking up to Turkey. Erdoo is not to ever be believed. He hates anything that stands in the way of his expansion. (Neo-Ottoman dreams)

[Texas Fossil]

Yep. Jeffrey is a disaster in Syria. He is long time State Department operative and is totally on the wrong teams.

He sucks up to Erdoo’s (Islamist dictator of Turkey) Turkey. And they are a huge state sponsor of Islamist Terrorism.

He must go. ASAP

[Rockingham]

Do you see the Trump national security strategy in office as consistent with your platform drafts and with Reagan’s strategy?

[Texas Fossil]

Turkish opposition? The Kemalists? Or the oppressed Kurds and others in Turkey?

Reality? Today in Turkey, NOBODY delivers an ultimatum to Erdoo. He is the Dictator.

[Texas Fossil]

Accurate description of Syria. (short versiun)

[olesigh]

my point!

[MrEdd]

A regime which (contradictory to your insinuation about its nature) protected minority Christian enclaves for decades.

I kind of noticed that part of Syria, because much of my family has been in the oil business since just after the first world war and so throughout childhood and teen years my parents and grandparents hosted friends and coworkers who had escaped one uprising or another in which westerners were attacked by fleeing to those same enclaves.

Sorry.

I have too much experience to buy the stinky crap you’re selling.

[Zhang Fei]

[Sorry.

I have too much experience to buy the stinky crap you’re selling.]

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It might surprise you to hear this, but totalitarian dictators and their favored minorities do come under attack from the majority they are keeping down. Meanwhile, Middle Eastern Christians like your friends were personalities like these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Aflaq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Habash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Aziz

All the totalitarian rulers of Syria had to do to avoid American enmity was to avoid sponsoring terror attacks against Americans. Most countries manage this. Syria’s government couldn’t avoid that temptation. From the deaths of hundreds of Marines in Lebanon to the deaths of thousands of GI’s in Iraq, Syria’s 10% minority government just had to stab Uncle Sam in the eye. Any damage it is taking is simply the result of its relentless efforts to kill Americans.

[thoughtomator]

yes it’s very similar - peace through strength AND restraint

[JudgemAll]

Not talking of McCain but Kurdish footage arresting Assad workers on government payroll pumping oil for ISIS.

And yes, because Assad propaganda never existed. You are the one recuperated.

[NorseViking]

“” “” Not talking of McCain but Kurdish footage arresting Assad workers on government payroll pumping oil for ISIS.”” “”

Imagine Texas is occupied by Atzlan and yet remains a single source of oil for US. You wouldn’t blame Texan oil workers who keep extracting it and you will pay Atzlan for this oil too.
You won’t like the people arresting oil workers too because oil workers need jobs and you need oil.