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The Coronavirus Hoax
Ron Paul Institute ^ | Mar 16 2020 | Dr Ron Paul

Posted on 03/16/2020 10:59:25 PM PDT by rintintin

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To: TigersEye

The plan for the internal destruction of the U.S.A. was way too easy
By Sher Zieve

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/200316


21 posted on 03/16/2020 11:31:21 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Thank God our country now has a GREAT AMERICAN President !!!)
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To: exDemMom

the hope that it is already widespread and not very serious is not founded on any data.

Because so little testing has been done in US, we don’t have data to support Fauci’s high death-rate claims either.


22 posted on 03/16/2020 11:33:15 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: exDemMom

https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

Out of Stanford 2.5% Spanish Flu. And you say this corona cold is 60% more deadly? Please... not seeing it. As for more spreadable, in two weeks I’m not seeing exponential spreading. I am seeing something that would normally not even be noticed.

The regular flu this year was just as contagious and was orders of magnitude more deadly. This is a politically induced, MSM media and social media driven mass hysteria panic and nothing else.


23 posted on 03/16/2020 11:33:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

As of 3/16/2020, 11PM, there were 182,405 cases with 7,154 deaths. 7154 / 182,405 = 0.039, or 3.9%

This is why I said that the fatality rate is approaching 4%. Because it is.

Tracking website at Johns Hopkins:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


24 posted on 03/16/2020 11:33:53 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Swirl

January would have been a great time to seal the borders and end sanctuary cities, then let the democrats deal with the public outcry for opposing these actions.

In January, the media was busy trying to destroy Pres. Trump via impeachment.


25 posted on 03/16/2020 11:34:00 PM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: VideoDoctor

To be an appropriate comparison with the flu and any other outbreak, you should only compare the flu data during its first month of outbreak, not its sum total.

Current data is showing the COV19 will peak in the US in June. After that time you can compare the data between viruses.


26 posted on 03/16/2020 11:34:17 PM PDT by Swirl
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To: Salamander

H1N1/Swine Flu was kind of a dud....60 million cases...12,469 fatalities (more mild than regular flu). Using current numbers (excluding China & Iran, don’t trust their #’s)...if COVID-19 gets to 60 million cases in the U.S. that would equal 2.1 million fatalities. Of course “current numbers” could be greatly influenced by undetected cases in the U.S. being much higher (the “denominator”)(lack of testing). If hundreds of thousands or millions of Americans have had or currently have COVID-19 and aren’t needing hospitalization or dying then that brings down the “fatality rate” to closer to “regular flu” rates. Also, with the current crack downs it is very unlikely to get to 60 million cases.


27 posted on 03/16/2020 11:35:00 PM PDT by Drago
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To: rintintin

Dr Paul is correct insofar that the media and political reactions we’ve seen are far disproportionate that other similar contagions that have come down the pike with little or no fanfare. Two immediate possibilities are 1) the authorities “know” something that is not being disclosed to the general public, or 2) it’s politically convenient to blow it way out of proportion to make Trump look bad and tank the economy. At the very least, something ain’t right.


28 posted on 03/16/2020 11:35:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: exDemMom

“I would expect a medical doctor to know a little more about infectious disease.”

Think about what you said. Think it all the way through. Maybe it’s -you- that is wrong.


29 posted on 03/16/2020 11:35:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Nifster

He’s right about Fouci


30 posted on 03/16/2020 11:36:30 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: Salamander

Hey honey

I’m so happy to see your head Is screwed on straight

Stuff has gotten weird here

High five.


31 posted on 03/16/2020 11:37:38 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: VideoDoctor; exDemMom

I was just looking for those figures to reply to exDemMom. Thank you.

re the “flu.” It is a non-reportable disease. Most people self-treat at home and never contact a doctor. Doctors don’t usually test for it they diagnose by symptoms and give patients their recommendations.

That means that the number of cases and number of deaths is based on speculation. That’s why there is a huge spread in the estimation. Maybe 22,000 people died of influenza/complications and maybe it was 55,000. In any given year a new strain of flu can pop up and the numbers can increase dramatically.

My point is that giving an absolute CFR of .1% for the flu is a major guesstimate. It is meaningless to use that figure as a basis of comparison to Covid-19 or anything else.

Consider this, if someone gave you investment information with a guess that was as loose as those figures above for influenza cases and deaths would you feel confident in that investment?


32 posted on 03/16/2020 11:38:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: wgmalabama

“Italy cases should be alarming but noooooo. “

A giant expat Chinese population of over 100,000 from a Chinese city called “Wuhan”. Direct flights back and forth.


33 posted on 03/16/2020 11:38:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: wgmalabama

I know. They understand neither exponential functions nor the mechanics of infectious disease transmission.

On the other hand, I worked for several years in the field of disease transmission.

This virus scares me. We are looking at potential numbers like the 1917-1919 pandemic, which also started small.


34 posted on 03/16/2020 11:38:32 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Salamander

Appropriately listening to Molly Hatchet’s Stop The Madness


35 posted on 03/16/2020 11:39:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: rintintin

Basically this all comes down to risk.

Some of us are risk-averse, some are risk-tolerant.

Once that risk level gets tweaked by an outside source
things start to happen.

When increased uncertainty slowly enters into the equation
people start to act, and in some cases, irrationally. Irrational behavior
is part of the human condition.

At some point, a lot of us can only stand back and watch it all happen, and let it play out.

Common sense tells us that this will pass and things will go back to “normal.”

But until all the facts are in, this is the new normal.


36 posted on 03/16/2020 11:41:49 PM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: rintintin

Ron Paul? *sigh*


37 posted on 03/16/2020 11:41:54 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: DesertRhino
“I would expect a medical doctor to know a little more about infectious disease.”

Think about what you said. Think it all the way through. Maybe it’s -you- that is wrong.

Considering that I am a PhD type of doctor with actual work experience in this field, I *know* that I'm not wrong about this.

38 posted on 03/16/2020 11:42:59 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: exDemMom

For an ex-Dem... Well, your Nick says that that but your posts are still pretty Dem. Just sayin’


39 posted on 03/16/2020 11:43:09 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: exDemMom

bump


40 posted on 03/16/2020 11:43:24 PM PDT by Bob434
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