Elon Tesla breaking wind!
Posted on 03/18/2020 1:08:14 PM PDT by rktman
Do Electric Vehicles really give off zero emissions?
While Electric Vehicles (EVs) do not emit CO2 like traditional combustion engine cars, they actually do still have particulate emissions which pose a substantial threat to clean air. Batteries required to power cars with no assistance from a traditional engine are quite heavy and place a much larger burden on tires than traditional cars. As the EVs rack up miles, particulates from tires, break dust, and re-agitated roadway pollutants are all mixed into the environment, creating potentially harmful air quality. As the increased workload on braking systems of EVs became a known problem, however, some electric cars have developed regenerative braking systems to curb the increase of air pollutants.
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“You mean that the toxic materials that make up the Zero Emission Pipe Dream have to be manufactured and mined?!” - slow dawning horror for some, others will never get it.
“Break” dust?
Are all the editors out with the virus?
I’m so frustrated, I want to brake something.
Because the electricity to recharge those cars .... but you know.
“...under BREAKING...” Should I have said braking? LOL!
If spell check can’t tag it, it ain’t gonna get fixed LOL.
Context is a thing of the past.
Filled up my Caddy for 1.66/gal today.
Even though the weather was bad I was smiling.
Elon Tesla breaking wind!
Numberless fear mongering in this article.
The only relevant point was battery recycling, and even that will not be a problem once enough money gets wind of the returns available.
Already, Musk’s designs have made recycling mainly a non-starter since the battery packs now last so long.
The truth of the matter is that end to end, electric vehicles are still much more efficient.
And everyday is a day that Musk continues to improve the technology and reduce the reliance on rare minerals.
“As the increased workload on braking systems of EVs became a known problem, however, some electric cars have developed regenerative braking systems to curb the increase of air pollutants” - cue that the author is just pursuing anti-EV bigotry.
EVs try to retain energy as much as possible, so regenerative braking is an obvious & critical development to capture otherwise wasted energy - NOT as some scheme to reduce particulate emissions (brake dust being a pathetically trivial issue).
Article starting with such idiocy, I’m not interested in reading the rest of it.
Based on the wholesale price, $1.66 a gallon I paid is high. Here it’s typically wholesale plus around 65 cents so it should be $1.30 or so. That may be the price in a week or so as the collapse works it’s way thru the system.
If someone really wants to start trouble for you, just one well placed shot by a handgun bullet to the (very large) battery compartment and you have a raging electric fire that the fire dept will have a very difficult time putting out!
Good luck on disposing of the hazardous waste afterwards.
Conversely, standard gasoline or diesel powered cars dont have that weakness or hazard.
Tesla will hold “Battery Day” within a few weeks. Expect major developments, starting with Tesla having bought a battery company which reduced production steps and can store significantly more power per volume. Recycling batteries is obvious, when talking ~1 ton of lithium-imbued batteries. Recycling is somewhat moot insofar as Tesla is achieving million-mile longevity (>90% original capacity at that usage); when the equivalent ICE vehicle is built for ~1/10th that distance (contrasting 1 EV battery vs 10 entire vehicles).
If your objection to EVs involves SHOOTING THEM, the problem isn’t the EVs.
Gas would have to get down around $0.50/gal just to break even with EV per-mile power cost.
Operating cost and total cost of ownership are two different things. That’s why fleet people who really understand this stuff (UPS, FedEx, WalMart, Waste Management, Republic, etc) have only dabbled with electrics, and most of that is virtue signalling.
Yes, we’re all aware that EVs are majority coal-powered.
First, directly compare emissions between ~20 gallons gasoline burned in a small mobile ICE engine with minimal emissions control, vs ~100 kW/h battery charged by electricity produced in a coal burning plant with massive emissions control systems. This is a known objective comparison.
Then, compare vehicle production emissions.
Apparently those combined work out to roughly equal.
Except that extending vehicle lifespans from ~100,000 to 1,000,000 miles means the second comparison cuts EV production emissions 90%.
Yes, EVs aren’t the green miracle some tout them as. Beware trying to construe them as utterly failing just because they don’t reach that ideal. Ain’t perfect, but good and improving.
Those “fleet people” are seriously considering EVs. Not quite ‘there’ yet, but getting close.
Of course they’re considering them.
For at least 20 years that I’m aware of.
But even in Europe where fuel prices are much higher than N. America (largely due to taxation), battery powered fleets are mostly for show.
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