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Taxpayers Paid Millions to Design a Low-Cost Ventilator for a Pandemic. Instead, the Company Is Selling Versions of It Overseas.
ProPublica ^ | March 30 | Patricia Callahan, Sebastian Rotella and Tim Golden

Posted on 03/31/2020 7:39:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/31/2020 7:39:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Most likely our legal environment prevents these ventilators from being sold here.

Gotta love our lawyers!


2 posted on 03/31/2020 7:48:27 PM PDT by BobL
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So, they are really close to having a design that works.


3 posted on 03/31/2020 7:56:51 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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“....But the contract HHS signed in September 2019 gave Philips almost a year before it had to produce a single Trilogy Evo Universal, and two more years to fulfill the order of 10,000 ventilators....”
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Hmmm...it sounds like the company is working within its contractual obligations. This article is simply yet another attempt to throw shade on Trump’s administration.


4 posted on 03/31/2020 8:03:28 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT!)
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Interesting article but decidedly anti-Trump even though in the body of this story, a lot of the problems occurred and we not solved during the almost 8 years of the Obama regime.

Just look at the dates for a timeline from 2008 (election Nov. 2008, inauguration Jan. 20, 2009, so you have to give the new administration about 6-9 months to get settled in and projects up and running. However, the Democrats never gave Pres. Bush is leeway re 9/11. All the preparations for the attack took place before he was president and then when he had only been in office for less than 8 months, plus the FBI middle-management that existed under Clinton poo-poohed field agent reports on possible aircraft attacks on America.

You can slant anything anyway you want to, and leftist groups like ProPublica are experts at it.


5 posted on 03/31/2020 8:03:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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[However, in a subsequent statement, the HHS spokeswoman said Philips is only required to deliver the ventilators “as they are completed.” Klink, the company spokesman, said Philips was only committed to meeting the original contract deadline of 10,000 ventilators by September 2022. ]


The key part Propublica buries in the middle of its propaganda screed. Typical Propublica BS. Good, cheap, fast. Pick any two. If they had specified a deadline of 2020, the price wouldn’t have been $14m.


6 posted on 03/31/2020 8:05:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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tuff read...looks like it

"Instead last summer, soon after the FDA’s approval, the Pennsylvania company that designed the device — a subsidiary of the Dutch appliance and technology giant Royal Philips N.V. — began selling two higher-priced commercial versions of the same ventilator around the world."
7 posted on 03/31/2020 8:11:11 PM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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Story is too long. Can we get a digest?


8 posted on 03/31/2020 8:13:05 PM PDT by firebrand
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Orange Man’s son bad.


9 posted on 03/31/2020 8:23:45 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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Trust the experts.


10 posted on 03/31/2020 8:27:32 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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From what I can gather, the contract wasn’t due until 2022, and the sale of commercial versions helps bring down the cost of the stockpile versions... and the stockpile design requires parts that have to be acquired from all over the globe, meaning that they can only be produced as parts suppliers can supply...and now the suppliers are having trouble due to the pandemic, so they can’t get everything as fast as estimated, etc...


11 posted on 03/31/2020 8:29:43 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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marktwain :" So, they are really close to having a design that works."

No, it sounds like they already have a design that they can sell to the highest bidder, despite the grant given by HHS.
If they are already selling units at $12,000 to $13,500., they already have a workable design and product.

" Steve Klink, the company’s Amsterdam-based spokesman, said Philips was within its rights under the HHS contract
to prioritize the commercial versions of the Trilogy Evo.
An HHS spokeswoman — who insisted she could not be identified by name, despite speaking for the agency — did not disagree. "

The above statement indicates that HHS needs to have a "risk assessment officer" who understands corporate law.
It sounds to me that HHS got contractually "hornswaggled", bamboozled, and deceived by a manufacturer in Pennsylvania.
All perfectly legal... ugh !

12 posted on 03/31/2020 8:32:35 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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The guts of this story. Company nakes several versions of ventilator. Hhs paid them to develop and deliver 10,000 low cost ventilators by decenber 2021.

The company has not started delivery, but continues to sell expensive ones to overseas customers.

This is somehow a scandal.

I suppose trump could order them to fill our 2021 contract before existing foriegn contracts. Then other countries would be screwed, and im sure trump would be blamed for deaths in those countries.

Or we could get a new manufacturer, which increases world supplies.

But that is seen as a corrupt thing somehow.


13 posted on 03/31/2020 8:37:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I mean september 2022.


14 posted on 03/31/2020 8:39:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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A very long piece with lots of claims which overwhelm the reader. This is done to make it impossible to discern facts and what is true.

This is pure obfuscation meant to confuse rather than clarify. The purpose is to force people to accept the headline as fact because the article is so confusing the reader can't recognize which facts are important.

15 posted on 03/31/2020 9:06:35 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Its time to confront idiot liberals and ask them what they would have done to stop a global pandemic before it got here.Trump appears to be the only leader outside of China being blamed.


16 posted on 03/31/2020 9:16:12 PM PDT by Bommer (I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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The company is Respironics. “ Royal Philips N.V. — began selling two higher-priced commercial versions of the same ventilator around the world.”

I’m calling BS on this story. The Trilogy 100 and 200 have been on the market for years. They are European designs. My employer has thousands of these units in use on patients in the US. Our local center has 65 of these that we manage in patient homes.

There are two hospital versions as well, the Vision and V-60.

This story doesn’t pass the smell test.


17 posted on 03/31/2020 9:30:55 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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"Instead, Philips is negotiating with a White House team led by Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to build 43,000 more complex and expensive hospital ventilators for Americans stricken by the virus."

Its because they see the country is desperate for these equipment and its a perfect opportunity to really price gouge the poor USA taxpayers, regardless of the fact that they company had gotten funds previously to do it for the USA but didnt fulfil that obligation.

18 posted on 03/31/2020 9:46:44 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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When you can just print up another few Trillion dollars waste and fraud become irrelevant.

I wonder who made off with millions for this flaming “screwup”?

If we could we need to remember who did what and punish them. Not get back at them, not get even, get ahead.


19 posted on 03/31/2020 9:49:16 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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A very long piece with lots of claims which overwhelm the reader. This is done to make it impossible to discern facts and what is true.

This is pure obfuscation meant to confuse rather than clarify. The purpose is to force people to accept the headline as fact because the article is so confusing the reader can’t recognize which facts are important.


There are enough details to take apart the headline and thesis of the story, if you read long enough and understand how production, inventory, and sales work. Most aren’t going to read all the way through, and a lot of people don’t understand how reality works, so they’re good with the obscurement.


20 posted on 03/31/2020 9:49:34 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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