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‘How Can I Be Sick?’ Wisconsin Woman Who Took Hydroxychloroquine For 19 Years To Treat Lupus Still Got COVID-19
CBS Minnesota ^ | 05/20/2020

Posted on 05/20/2020 8:09:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Color me suspicious. Article didn’t mention zinc. Also, one case which would seem to be an outlier with many possible explanations. When I see 100 -500 cases like this I will be less sceptical.


21 posted on 05/20/2020 8:23:30 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet
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To: HighSierra5

I would expect that having lupus would be a major co-morbidity factor, even if the drug she takes the lupus is the same one that helps with COVID-19.

I would think the negative of lupus would far outweigh the positive of having a body load of the drug that is supposed to help with COVID-19.

I don’t know that for sure, but that seems logical to me.


22 posted on 05/20/2020 8:23:31 PM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: WHBates

Anecdotal, yes.

And she also took precautions going out of the house to the grocery store.

Also anecdotal.


23 posted on 05/20/2020 8:26:16 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: George from New England

One of the best kept secrets around is BHT short for butylated hydroxy toluene.

It has been around for the better part of thirty years or more, has been approved as a food additive by the FDA as safe for human consumption in small quantities and using common sense. Without going into all the details which would fill many pages some of the benefits are difficult to ignore even so pharmaceutical as well as the medical profession does their best to do so. As a prophylactic it would serve its purpose very well until the right vaccine comes along, without any undesirable side effects, besides being inexpensive and is safer than alcohol consumption, use of tobacco or many other unhealthy eating habits, including many prescription dugs with many undesirable side effects.

Some of the reasons are that that there is no money to be made by pharmaceutical companies as patents related to BHT ran out long time ago and in order to have it approved for medical application it would require an immeasurable amounts of human tests with expenditures in the millions of Dollars which most likely will never be recovered.

On the other hand many doctors may know about it but will refrain from suggesting it as recommending anything which is not approved by the FDA would leave them wide open to lawsuits, as it is pretty well known that one of the American dreams is, to fall on your neighbors property and then sue them for what ever they can get.

Over the years enough information about BHT has surfaced that if used in small quantities to achieve a particular result, such as from 100 mg to about 1g (one gram or 1000mg) and in most cases 250mg to 450mg may do a nice job for some of the things suggested, it may be less harmful than an equivalent amount of Aspirins. Again do your own research and use common sense which appears to be in short supply these days. Should you decide to try don’t go overboard with it, as more is not always better.

Even so if you still apprehensive or hesitant, use it only when one of those nasty viruses appears on the scene and use it as a prophylactic in a small quantity perhaps up to 450 mg and once the danger subside stop taking it. The catch is that in order to do its job BHT works better before you get sick, as BHT will NOT REPAIR ANY DAMAGE which may already have been done by an infectious disease such as the corona virus. Even so if taken afterwards BHT will still continue to disable lipid covered viruses, but to repair any damage already caused may require different medications.

So why to take BHT on the firs place? It has been long known that BHT will damage the lipid layer or cover from LIPID COVERED viruses and the coronavirus happens to be just such a virus and by doing so will prevent such a virus from attaching itself and do its dirty work.

The Principal Benefits of BHT

In order of importance, supplementing with BHT can help with:

Reduce and prevent viral infections such as herpes, thus terminating their outbreaks. Also BHT is effective against many different human and animal viruses including CMV (cytomegalovirus),9 pseudorabies,10 genital herpes,11HIV,12 and some strains of influenza.13 Just a few but not all of the viruses that have a lipid envelope and may be treated by BHT include herpes simplex I, herpes simplex II, herpes zoster, CMV, West Nile virus, HIV virus, influenza virus, hepatitis B and C viruses, avian flu influenza virus and the SARS virus. However, BHT has not been clinically tested to treat these infections, and there probably never will be as no money can be made.

The CORONAVIRUS is also a lipid covered virus and BHT affects the lipid covering and in turn prevents the virus from attaching itself and do its damage. Now keep in mind that very few things in life are perfect and this holds true for vaccines as well. So when everything comes down to being cut and dried, do you prefer risking being infected with a nasty virus with all kinds of unpredictable side effects or take a chance with some substance which overall has a very good safety record.

Besides most viruses will mutate over time, and from what I just have read they certainly do, and by the time someone may come up with the proper vaccine it may no longer match the virus which is currently making its round. But BHT doesn’t care if such a virus mutates or not. As long as such a virus has a lipid coating it will damage it and disable such a virus.

The only articles I ever came across so far were that BHT and LIPID COVERED viruses don’t get along as BHT will damage and deactivate them. I never heard the opposite. Of course it never works 100 % but neither do vaccines.

One of my hunches is, of course it is only speculation and is based on common sense. As BHT interferes with a Lipid covered virus and deactivates it, some viruses may sneak by and there will also be a given amount of viruses which have been deactivated and no longer are able to cause any harm. However whatever remains in form of deactivated viruses or some which may have snuck by may be just enough to wake up our immune system to fight the real life virus should you become infected.

Basically this how immunization generally works, by injecting a deactivated virus then hope our immune system responds to it and begins to fight the real thing by means of antibodies it has developed in he mean time. I for one and I am quite sure there are many others, have been using BHT off and on for the past thirty years whenever one of these flu like viruses made their rounds and so far had pretty good luck with it.
If you are interested enough you may want to watch this short movie clip on YouTube………

BHT and Coronavirus | LIFE EXTENSION BOOK RESEARCH …
www.youtube.com › watch

And by he way and for what it is worth...

To date, there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine made, due to the nature of the virus. Additionally, past attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine have ONLY RESULTED IN LEAVING THE VACCINATED PERSON WITH A HIGHER CHANCE OF SERIOUS ILLNESS AND DEATH WHEN LATER EXPOSED TO ANOTHER STRAIN OF THE VIRUS.


25 posted on 05/20/2020 8:28:01 PM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER)
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To: SeekAndFind

What, no zinc and azithromycin?


26 posted on 05/20/2020 8:28:07 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Texaspeptoman; politicket; alstewartfan; SeekAndFind; Robert DeLong; xp38
Looks to me like a case where the Media almost killed this woman by not reporting the whole story on the HCQ/Z-Pak/zinc therapeutic.

And now they're trying to compound the damage of their shoddy #PoliticalMedicine "reporting" with anecdotal misinformation.

27 posted on 05/20/2020 8:29:33 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw a story just the other day about a study along these lines. It think it was done in Italy. They looked at the rate of COVID-19 cases among lupus patients who had been taking HCL. IIRC the rate was extremely low which seemed to point pretty clearly to a protective effect. Seems like the story was at Gateway Pundit.


28 posted on 05/20/2020 8:30:03 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican

re; What, no zinc and azithromycin?

She was expecting PROTECTION from Covid-19 infection since she has been on Hydoxychloroquine for nearly 20 decades, not to be treated for it.


29 posted on 05/20/2020 8:30:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

No drug is 100% effective, ffs.


30 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:00 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: Yardstick

RE: I saw a story just the other day about a study along these lines. It think it was done in Italy

Yes, see Post #16 above for the link.


31 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks.


32 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kim said even though she took precautions when leaving the house for the grocery store, she thought she would be safe because of what President Donald Trump has said about the drug

That’s the only freaking line CBS cares about. The media is the enemy.
33 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:32 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: piasa

I thought Trump only advocated aquarium cleaner…clearly this woman isn’t following directions.


34 posted on 05/20/2020 8:31:32 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: bigbob

RE: No drug is 100% effective, ffs.

That’s why I proposed a survey in Post #4 above.


35 posted on 05/20/2020 8:32:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

They finally found someone on HCQ that got Covid. Took ‘em long enough.


36 posted on 05/20/2020 8:32:09 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So I was like, “where’s the zinc?”


37 posted on 05/20/2020 8:32:51 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: SeekAndFind

at the risk of being captain obvious, isn’t lupus an autoimmune disease? which alone makes her a prime candidate for covid19 hospitalization and mortality.

who knows, maybe the HCQ mitigated the virulence of her covid19 infection and saved her life.


38 posted on 05/20/2020 8:32:53 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

1. It’s not a 100% effective miracle drug.
2. Apparently it’s an effective delivery mechanism for zinc, which is what actually stops CV19. No zinc, no effect.


39 posted on 05/20/2020 8:34:06 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: plain talk

She obviously slept through English class.


40 posted on 05/20/2020 8:34:08 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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