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1 posted on 05/22/2020 9:09:32 PM PDT by conservative98
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More importantly, as I mentioned before, the overall death rate is meaningless because the numbers are so lopsided. Given that at least half of the deaths were in nursing homes, a back-of-the-envelope estimate would show that the infection fatality rate for non-nursing home residents would only be 0.1% or 1 in 1,000. And that includes people of all ages and all health statuses outside of nursing homes. Since nearly all of the deaths are those with comorbidities.

The CDC estimates the death rate from COVID-19 for those under 50 is 1 in 5,000 for those with symptoms, which would be 1 in 6,725 overall, but again, almost all those who die have specific comorbidities or underlying conditions. Those without them are more likely to die in a car accident. And schoolchildren, whose lives, mental health, and education we are destroying, are more likely to get struck by lightning.


2 posted on 05/22/2020 9:11:51 PM PDT by conservative98
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We knew it!


3 posted on 05/22/2020 9:11:56 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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Moreover, a great miracle has happened here!

There are no death certificates stating COD coronary disease.

There are no death certificates stating COD diabetic complication,

There are no death certificates stating COD chronic respiratory disorder.

What a wonder COVID 19 has wrought!

/S


4 posted on 05/22/2020 9:14:39 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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I just went thru the link sequence. This is what is in the actual CDC report:

The parameters in the scenarios:

Are estimates intended to support public health preparedness and planning.

Are not predictions of the expected effects of COVID-19.

Do not reflect the impact of any behavioral changes, social distancing, or other interventions.

Note the second item. This report is for modelers and planners. It is not a measurement of anything at all. It’s not even a best guess of anything other than what parameters should be in modeling.

This whole “it’s not very serious” stuff needs to start out explaining the single critical info: For essentially every country of the world, over the relevant months, total deaths in countries for these months far exceed the deaths in those countries for the same months historically. And it’s not even close to being the same.

Something is killing a lot of extra people in these months. It’s not likely to be something you would call not serious.


8 posted on 05/22/2020 9:20:50 PM PDT by Owen
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Ping


9 posted on 05/22/2020 9:23:13 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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But 25% of all patients that use HCL DIE RIGHT THERE.


12 posted on 05/22/2020 9:34:45 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)
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Where is the media?

Busy writing more Leftist propaganda.

14 posted on 05/22/2020 9:43:44 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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We should have never shut down

This R0 is that for a bad flu. Had NY and NJ treated nursing homes the way Florida did the death toll may have been even lower. We can never be sure


16 posted on 05/22/2020 9:53:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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The blue state governors’ heads will be exploding...this will upset their agenda....


19 posted on 05/22/2020 10:16:06 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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WHERE is the “mainstream media”?? - I can answer that one easily/accurately & in just 4 short words: LYING THEIR @SS OFF.

There is nothing so consistent than that the press LIES like a roomful of rugs.

Yours, TMN78247


21 posted on 05/22/2020 11:10:16 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 18car36)
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Such as it is, the press has become the greatest power within the Western World, more powerful than the legislature, the executive and judiciary. One would like to ask; by whom has it been elected and to whom is it responsible? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


23 posted on 05/22/2020 11:21:15 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Chicago has a higher death rate from homicide on a weekend than the US does from the coronavirus over the weekend. Hyperbole but closer to the truth than most “modelers” and media mouthpieces.


24 posted on 05/22/2020 11:21:49 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Lawyering up.


28 posted on 05/22/2020 11:47:49 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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L8r


30 posted on 05/23/2020 1:01:38 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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Where is the media? In full rectal defilade, as usual.


31 posted on 05/23/2020 1:17:13 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, who graduated from Air Force pilot training, on 1 May 2020)
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We will hit 100,000 sometime Monday or Tuesday. The media will do an all out blitz on this “milestone”. I’m expecting the alphabets, with FOX included to do wall to wall coverage. Then they will predict that the numbers will “go much higher”. Of course the obligatory reports on the number of people in the free states that went out and infected everyone else will be top priority as well. Meanwhile the actual stats of mortality are probably half that number. I mean being murderer in South Side Chicago, but having Covid test positive, really means you died of Covid in New Amerika.


43 posted on 05/23/2020 5:39:29 AM PDT by krug
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0.26%. = in english is: 1/4 of 1.0% !?


51 posted on 05/23/2020 7:47:58 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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This article completely misrepresents the CDC report.

The CDC report is the COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios. Importantly, this is NOT an analysis of the actual spread of the disease.

The parameters in the scenarios:
--Are estimates intended to support public health preparedness and planning.
--Are not predictions of the expected effects of COVID-19.
--Do not reflect the impact of any behavioral changes, social distancing, or other interventions.

I am actually dumbfounded as to why people love so much the narrative that Covid-19 is widespread and that there are millions of asymptomatic carriers. This is actually far worse than the actual situation, and betrays a complete lack of understanding about infectious disease.

For people complaining about the lock downs and having to wear masks, stay 6 feet away from everyone else, etc., understand that one of the reasons for this is the fact that Covid-19 does spread before infected people show symptoms. If asymptomatic spread were not a thing, the restrictions would not have to be so stringent.

57 posted on 05/23/2020 8:41:43 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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It can be whatever the UNACCOUNTABLE BUREAUCRATS want it to be at any time.

“Without the ability to question findings, we risk fooling ourselves into thinking we are capitalizing on the information age when we are really just making decisions based on evidence that no one, except perhaps the people who generated it, actually has the ability to understand. That’s the door closing.” Victoria Stodden - Where Did You Get That Fact?

https://www.edge.org/response-detail/23794


62 posted on 05/23/2020 10:17:52 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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70 posted on 05/23/2020 6:44:07 PM PDT by bitt (Much of our culture is intended to traumatize us, as traumatized people are easily controlled)
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