Posted on 05/28/2020 4:48:19 PM PDT by bort
Is “George Floyd” confirmably a real person?
Is this whole situation faked top to bottom?
Sure, the cause of death is that Floyd stopped breathing. I’m sure that kneeling on his neck had nothing to do with that. </sarcasm>
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Hey! When someone can talk and say “I can’t breathe”...they can breathe.
You can take that to the bank as I have considerable expertise — I watch “Live PD”.
Unlike you i like the truth without the bias. I’ll defend the side that is right and honorable which ever side that is.
At the very least it is attempted murder.
This ain't your fathers Minneapolis..
Hey, I saw it all on TV and you know they never lie......LET’S GO BURN OUR OWN HOUSE DOWN.....WTF....wait until you get the whole story.
This prosecution claim makes me think that this time the left might be right, that we might be looking at systemic racism.
Our legal system has a solid principle called the eggshell skull rule.
https://www.jrlawfirm.com/blog/general/eggshell-skull/
It says the system must accept the conditions of people, and rule on cases, as people are, and not as one might assume an average person to be.
The killing video clearly depicts Floyd, under the officer’s knee, saying that he can’t breathe. Regardless of anything else this tells us that for THIS person the force being applied is probably too excessive.
As the arrestee passes out and remains motionless onlookers repeated the arrestee’s pleas and pointed out the arrestee’s unconscious condition. Still the officer refused to even pay attention.
At the point of having the defendant handcuffed on his face it doesn’t matter what ensued in the lead-up confrontation. The defendant’s fate was completely under the officer’s control. His outcome was the officer’s responsibility.
The law will adjudicate the excessive-ness of force as it applies to THIS arrestee, and not to the excessive-ness needed for any hypothetical average arrestee.
If Benjamin Crump is involved you can bet the media will be used to the fullest to paint his picture. He has a team that work the media and the interviews as well as coach the families on what to say. It will be a huge spin no matter what the evidence reveals.
Once you have someone cuffed on the ground you should not put your full weight down on their neck. Police procedure be damned. Treating one arrested and subdued person different from another is antithetical to everything this country stands for.
I suggest everyone look at Dan Bongino's YouTube vid from yesterday.
What if he was actually dying from a drug/alcohol overdose?
All the more reason NOT to kneel on his neck for 9 minutes.
Either the need, or the "advise-ibility" of it.
When people are intoxiccated and rowdy or resisting efforts to ‘arrest’ them for criominal activity, having fallen twice already and combative when you attempt putting them in a police vehicle.......you don’t treat them as if giving them a parking ticket.
When people are intoxiccated and rowdy or resisting efforts to ‘arrest’ them for criominal activity, having fallen twice already and combative when you attempt putting them in a police vehicle.......you don’t treat them as if giving them a parking ticket.
He was clearly inebriated or drugged.....also combative....I have no issues with constraining such an individual. How that was done is within the law.....the duration could be an issue as has been in the past.
The paramedics (by their own notes) had been called earlier for a "man with a mouth injury" . That merely suggests one of the officers smacked him in the mouth -- as the oriental ex-cop on the film had a prior excessive force incident, payment of $25k, for kicking a handcuffed teenager in the mouth and knocking out teeth.
The paramedics (no axe to grind in this affair) said they were surprised to find the victim unresponsive (I assume that means no eye reflex) and without a pulse.
The video actually shows Mr. Kneecap maintaining pressure o the guy's neck, for 2 1/2 full minutes after he evacuated his bowels / urinated on himself. Even people unconscious in surgery don't do that, so that's a good guess as to the time of death.
All this, while by standers were begging Mr. Kneecap to get off the guy and take his pulse.
That's not rumor or suggestion or media hysteria. That's from a video taken without tricky camera cuts or editing, in real time, as it happened, from six feet away.
Let me guess, you only read 2nd- or 3-rd hand descriptions, and didn't actually watch the video?
While he said he couldn't breathe, and while bystanders are calling out that they're killing him, telling him that neck holds are physically dangerous, and begging Mr. Kneecap to get up and take his pulse.
Also for 2 1/2 minutes AFTER his bowels and bladder let go.
Two other policemen already had his legs.
He was already cuffed and on the ground on his stomach.
How hard would it have been to just sit on one of his shoulders? No airway or carotid artery issues there.
There is NO excuse for this police officer to do what he did for as LONG as he did it - he should be fired and imprisoned for manslaughter.
However, George Floyd had a history of violent crime, armed robbery and home invasion. He was not the innocent gentle giant as the looney leftists claim.
It’s the same as Michael Brown who assaulted someone just prior to his attempted arrest. He also tried to get the gun from a police officer in his car, assaulting him the progress and then was shot when he launched an attack against the officer.
There are always two sides to these stories and having watched several versions of the surveillance videos, some are edited and all end just as he is going to the ground catching the one officer by surprise. It also shows him dragging against the officers as they approached the police vehicle.
Passing counterfeit currency is a federal office and with his previous convictions could have meant life in jail for him.
This proves your earlier conversation with me was in bad faith.
The full video was not a small portion and includes the man’s death.
I have standards. I try to keep them to the one's God gave us. I see nothing but revulsion in watching that cop keep his full weight on a man's neck who was harmless on the ground. There are no values in humanity that justify that. There are no extenuating circumstances or police procedures that pass muster in a civilized society for what that video shows.
something happened and he immediately went limp....
there were two other people in that car with the victim....I would love to know what they had to say....
to say that a subdued, cuffed behind their back, laying on the ground face down person deserves a fully weighted knee on their neck because they 'resisted' prior is not police work... it is sadistic retribution.... and murder if the man dies.
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