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At Least 22 States Count ‘Probable’ COVID Cases or Deaths in Their Totals
Epoch Times ^
| 07/21/2020
| Peter Svab
Posted on 07/21/2020 1:49:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
At least 22 states count in their COVID-19 statistics cases or deaths that havent been confirmed with a diagnostic test. These probable cases are determined based on symptoms and other general characteristics. While useful to track for epidemiologists, such cases add noise to the national data as some states report them and some dont. Also, different states started reporting such cases at different times, making data comparisons with earlier periods difficult.
COVID-19 is caused by novel coronavirus that emerged in China in 2019 and has since spread around the world. The United States has seen over 3.8 million cases and over 140,000 related deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
The problem is, different states report statistics on the epidemic differently.
Some states, such as Arizona, Ohio, Michigan, and Virginia include in their totals probable cases and deaths.
The nonprofit Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE) instructed health authorities in April (pdf) to define probable cases in people with at least some symptoms (such as a headache and a sore throat) who belong to a risk cohort or have had contact with people whove tested positive, such as by residing in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission.
Probable deaths are usually defined as a person dying at least partly due to an illness that looked like COVID, but hasn’t been confirmed by a laboratory test (which can be conducted postmortem).
Some states, such as Arkansas, New Jersey, and Washington, only include probable deaths, but not probable infections.
Some states, it appears, only include probable infections, but not deaths. Maine and Kansas may be in this category, their COVID websites indicate. The Epoch Times contacted all 50 states and the District of Columbia, but only 33 responded to the inquiries. Maine and Kansas didnt respond.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; deaths; infections
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To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
07/21/2020 1:52:01 PM PDT
by
Morpheus2009
(If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
To: SeekAndFind
Gotta inflate those covid numbers so the MSM has something to attack President Trump with.
To: SeekAndFind
At least 22 States report Fraudulent COVID Numbers
That is the real headline!!
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posted on
07/21/2020 1:54:40 PM PDT
by
eyeamok
To: SeekAndFind
Also, different states started reporting such cases at different times, making data comparisons with earlier periods difficult.At least one major county in NYS started adding antibody positives to the New Daily Count. That's about 100 "cases" a day making it look like past infections are happening currently.
And Worldometer gladly reports it like they report i for many other locations.
Worldometer also adds probables to the daily totals in NYS. Cuomo reports one number. Worldometer jacks that number up with probables.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:05:57 PM PDT
by
FreeReign
To: EvilCapitalist
After November we’re gonna find out the chinaflu wasn’t as bad as made out to be.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:16:40 PM PDT
by
ealgeone
To: SeekAndFind
Scary-sounding surges and spikes in “probable,” i.e., not verified, virus cases and deaths.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:17:13 PM PDT
by
Socon-Econ
(adical Islam,)
To: SeekAndFind
CV19 conquered Nov. 4.
If the election goes as planned.
8
posted on
07/21/2020 2:20:54 PM PDT
by
Vinnie
To: SeekAndFind
gotta keep that fake panic going or President Trump might get re-elected ...
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:21:40 PM PDT
by
catnipman
(Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
To: SeekAndFind
Isn’t this how they count “flu” cases, which are lumped together with pneumonia cases, & the media pushes the fake total every year?
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:21:50 PM PDT
by
PghBaldy
(12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
To: eyeamok
And Flu deaths also died in March. Non reported after February. All probable Covid 19 pneumonia related deaths.
To: SeekAndFind
Make the states pay the feds for every new case and watch the numbers drop.
To: SeekAndFind; All
This is why the entire Covid analysis thingy is a disaster. Buntcha dopes and crooks doing the counting. Hospitals inflate the numbers to get more $$$ from the Feds.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:35:16 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
To: blackberry1
NOTE: The week of April 4 was the last week in-season influenza burden estimates will be provided for the 2019-2020 season.
All flu deaths after March were coded as Covid deaths. The CDC is a fraud......
To: eyeamok; All
Yup. And the unwashed believe this crap... and slimeball, Fauci.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:36:47 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
To: blackberry1
they’re seriously NOT reporting flu deaths right now??
Vital Statistics Reference Guidance 03, April 2020(CDC)See Attachment
Cause-of-Death Reporting
When reporting cause of death on a death certificate, use any
information available, such as medical history, medical records,
laboratory tests, an autopsy report, or other sources of relevant
information. Similar to many other diagnoses, a cause-of-death
statement is an informed medical opinion that should be based
on sound medical judgment drawn from clinical training and
experience, as well as knowledge of current disease states and
local trends (6).
Part I
This section on the death certificate is for reporting the sequence
of conditions that led directly to death. The immediate cause of
death, which is the disease or condition that directly preceded
death and is not necessarily the underlying cause of death
(UCOD), should be reported on line a. The conditions that led
to the immediate cause of death should be reported in a logical
sequence in terms of time and etiology below it.
The UCOD, which is “(a) the disease or injury which initiated
the train of morbid events leading directly to death or (b) the
circumstances of the accident or violence which produced the
fatal injury” (7), should be reported on the lowest line used in
Part I.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:40:20 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
To: GreyHoundSailor; All
The Feds should not be subsidizing the hospitals. People Living in Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, etc., minding their own non-Covid business, should not have their labor confiscated by the Feds to subsidize the Covid city rats.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:40:48 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/downloadPage 3
INTENDED USE
Positive results are indicative of active infection with
2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected
may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are
required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.
Negative results do not preclude 2019-nCoV infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or other patient management decisions.”
Translation: A positive test doesn’t guarantee that the COVID virus is causing infection at all. Then again, maybe the COVID virus isAC not be in the patient’s body either.
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:41:49 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
From the World Health Organization (WHO): “Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humans”
https://bit.ly/3cidWiS“Several assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.”
Translation: Some PCR tests register positive for types of coronavirus that have nothing to do with COVID—including plain old coronas that cause nothing more than a cold.
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posted on
07/21/2020 2:42:37 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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