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Most of them seem to be within the margin of error so it's not disastrous as the media would have you believe...
1 posted on 07/29/2020 5:32:49 AM PDT by RandFan
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>>Most of them seem to be within the margin of error so it’s not disastrous as the media would have you believe...

Yes, but how much did they oversample the Rats? 8 points? 10 points? Without knowing that these numbers are meaningless


2 posted on 07/29/2020 5:36:07 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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You wonder if you can add in the “shy Trump” vote into this as well. That is, people who do not openly tell that they are going to vote Republican.


3 posted on 07/29/2020 5:37:32 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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Bro it’s fantastic.

Are you the last person to hear that you have to add about 5 point to Trump on polls besides maybe Rasmussen? :)

Many people will not admit they are voting for Trump.

Not on the phone and not even online.

Plus there’s usually some slant in the polling methods.

And if even neither of those are true, it’s July.

I’m guessing a sitting president has been behind many times this early only to surge at the end.


4 posted on 07/29/2020 5:38:17 AM PDT by dp0622 (Patriots: Better stand tall when they're calling you out. Don't bend, don't break, don't back down.)
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What happened to the double digit Biden lead? How and more importantly why did it go away so fast and so thoroughly among all these States?


5 posted on 07/29/2020 5:38:19 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Given that the polls routinely under count republicans, over count democrats, these are good polls


6 posted on 07/29/2020 5:40:40 AM PDT by rstrahan
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If these polls are correct, Trump is actually in better shape than he was against Hillary in the battleground states at this point in 2016. I remember polls in Michigan had Hillary up 7% on election day...


8 posted on 07/29/2020 5:41:04 AM PDT by apillar
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Not to mention the debates haven’t even started yet.

biden can’t last through one without making a mistake at this point..a big one..I think.

Early dementia makes it hard to do a 90 minute debate


12 posted on 07/29/2020 5:45:37 AM PDT by dp0622 (Patriots: Better stand tall when they're calling you out. Don't bend, don't break, don't back down.)
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The first debate is in two months. Let’s talk after that.


20 posted on 07/29/2020 5:59:59 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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LOL Can’t wait for Nov. 3! It will be a landslide! MAGA


21 posted on 07/29/2020 6:10:21 AM PDT by WWG1WWA ( Unity, not division)
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Change Research conducted a poll of 2,565 likely voters July 24-26, 2020 across 6 competitive battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

A companion national survey of 1,039 likely voters was also conducted July 24-26, 2020.

The margin of error, as traditionally calculated, is ±1.94% for the battleground and ±3.04% for the national poll.

Change Research reaches voters via targeted online ads that point people to an online survey instrument. https://www.changeresearch.com/post/states-of-play-battleground-wave-10

23 posted on 07/29/2020 6:15:05 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Margin of error (MOE) for the battleground states is +/-1.94% -— none of the results in your post are within the MOE.

https://www.changeresearch.com/post/states-of-play-battleground-wave-10


25 posted on 07/29/2020 6:16:50 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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How heavy did they oversample Dems?


29 posted on 07/29/2020 6:21:35 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Does this translate to 14% nationally? These are completely made up good or bad?


31 posted on 07/29/2020 6:24:42 AM PDT by wiseprince
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They know the real situation and are realizing their pie in the sky DOUBLE-DIGIT fabrications were causing over-confidence and complacency among the "rabble".

Now they are tightening the polls to:
1. Not look like total incompetent idiots when Trump wins
2. Try to scare the lazy lefties into voting as they know the enthusiasm gap is enormous.

33 posted on 07/29/2020 6:25:49 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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Only one poll counts which is election day. So get out and vote on election day and fight for our President every day till election day!


34 posted on 07/29/2020 6:27:01 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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They are also extremely small sample sizes. 284 - NC, 382 - PA and 392 WI. Almost meaningless. That said, Joe is in bad shape and he knows it.


35 posted on 07/29/2020 6:33:39 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America!)
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I know it’s anecdotal but I polled my (Trump supporting) family members and all of us said the same thing: None of us would EVER answer a pollster that we were voting for Trump.

I suspect there are many out there just like us who refuse to answer these polls or slam the phone down (so to speak).

Same in 2016, on the day of the election, when Hillary had an over 90% chance of winning the election.


37 posted on 07/29/2020 6:53:33 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Baby!)
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These polls tell us what we really already knew — these states are toss ups. They truly could go either way at this point. Certainly Trump’s not in trouble like the media keeps reporting, but nor is he in the clear like some on here seem to believe. We cannot get complacent and think we’ve got this election in the bag. Old Cankles showed us what happens when you get complacent about an election. Let’s not make that mistake.

TLDR version — polls, schmes, get out there and fight; nothing is decided.


38 posted on 07/29/2020 6:57:36 AM PDT by stremba
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FORGET POLLS! They are all FAKE!

You are being manipulated. Don’t let them!


41 posted on 07/29/2020 7:11:42 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Are these polls of registered voters, eligible to be registered voters, likely to be paroled before the election voters, or actual registered likely voters?


43 posted on 07/29/2020 7:20:23 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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