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States investigating older iPhones slowing down, shutting off
The Hill ^ | 07 29 2020 | Kaelan Deese

Posted on 07/29/2020 2:37:44 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Arizona is leading a multi-U.S. state investigation into whether Apple is violating trade practice laws by deliberating slowing older iPhones, Reuters reported Wednesday.

The Tech Transparency Project, a watchdog group, released documents last week showing the Texas attorney general might sue the Cupertino, Calif.-based company for violations from a multi-state probe, but did not specify charges, Axios reported.

The probe has been ongoing since at least October 2018 with investigators requesting information from Apple about "unexpected shutdowns" of older phones along with the company's throttling of iPhones through power management software, the documents obtained via public records showed.

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To: yesthatjallen

Oh noes!!

How will they keep up with all their licks and looks, or something......


21 posted on 07/29/2020 3:09:39 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: Pox

Has he tried to get it serviced? Just because one phone has problems doesn’t mean all do.

Aside from that, the iPhone 6 was released in 2014, so it’s now a 6-year old phone. Just how long do you expect one to last? How many of your friends have 6-year old Android phones that run perfectly?


22 posted on 07/29/2020 3:10:15 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Fungi

People bought the newer models because there were vast improvements made to the speed and design,

I rarely had a device last more than 1.5 years before I finally switched to an Apple. They are a very solid design, and easily last more than the expected 2 year life.


23 posted on 07/29/2020 3:10:15 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: All

I’m more concerned about losing coverage as ATT goes 5G, they are replacing older technology which decreases the service area (there’s only so much space on a tower) for older phones. I used to have three bars on my phone and now usually none (as in no service available). I’m at the same place I was 13 years ago, so that hasn’t changed.


24 posted on 07/29/2020 3:10:24 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)
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To: AustinBill
He's likely just going to get a newer phone.

My 6s is still working perfectly fine and holding a charge just fine. If my battery goes, I'll likely just get a replacement battery as I'm not interested in the latest and greatest handheld supercomputer that also does phone calls!

I have plenty of friends and coworkers who have had their android phones replaced over the last several years for one reason or another while mine just keeps on going.

Of course, not all phones or all users are the same. I'm feeling pretty lucky that mine has been working perfectly fine for all this time and I hope my luck holds out for a while longer.

25 posted on 07/29/2020 3:14:16 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Pox

If it’s a corporate phone, it could be the MDM and/or MDM policies that are the culprit. Or it could be a pre-loved phone, which companies issue without telling end users.


26 posted on 07/29/2020 3:16:00 PM PDT by Intar
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To: Fungi

I just up graded. To a used iPhone 7. I think I’ll give the 6S to my grandson.


27 posted on 07/29/2020 3:18:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: yesthatjallen

We’ve been through this before. I don’t know whether the state got involved back then, or the feds. But the problem ended for me and hasn’t returned. Can’t believe Apple would try that again, because it cost them, iirc.


28 posted on 07/29/2020 3:19:50 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: yesthatjallen
It might be the carrier as I suspect Verizon has done this to older phones.

Verizon LG phones worked fine until they started dropping calls during the daytime in April even though we could see the antennas on an actual Verizon building.

I suspect Verizon couldn't handle the volume of daytime calls from altered phone habits from COVID19; telecommuters now in the suburbs who previously met face to face in the city, used city cell towers, or used business lines.

Verizon no longer had deals with LG but its non-LG replacement hasn't once had a dropped call. Carriers such as Verizon want you to buy a new phone on payment plans and likely programmed their network to prioritize the newer phone contracts. Non-prioritized phones, constantly reaching out to towers, are going to run down the battery faster.

29 posted on 07/29/2020 3:25:20 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Vendome

I used to buy Samsungs but they only seem to last about 2 years. I have an iPhone now and it is at least 6 years old. I did have to replace the battery about a year ago, which cost $60 at a nonApple repair shop. iPad also the best tablet I ever had.


30 posted on 07/29/2020 3:47:23 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: AustinBill
Aside from that, the iPhone 6 was released in 2014, so it’s now a 6-year old phone. Just how long do you expect one to last? How many of your friends have 6-year old Android phones that run perfectly?

Bought my galaxy s3 in 2012 - still works perfectly and only needs to be charged every other day hahahahahaha.

31 posted on 07/29/2020 3:59:47 PM PDT by eldoradude (Boycott Chinese made goods)
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To: yesthatjallen
I have the opposite problem.
The battery indicator goes 100% - 90% - 80% - 3%.
Then it works just fine on "3%" for several hours.

32 posted on 07/29/2020 4:03:12 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Intar

Neither.

However, thanks to your post I started thinking more about apps and right about the time his issues began, about the time everyone started working remote, we were offered an app to interface with our corporate phone system and I didn’t bother, but he did install it.

This app is pretty flaky and sometimes the connections seem to be compressed severely and it sounds like I’m talking to a chipmunk. So, I’m going to try to help him get rid of that app and see if matters improve. Thanks!


33 posted on 07/29/2020 4:14:25 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Fungi

So was Volkswagen... but we saw how that assumption was wrong.


34 posted on 07/29/2020 4:16:29 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Phil

... they also don’t obtain a full-charge after 500 or so charging cycles. That right there is going to cost you battery life and trip a power saving setting more rapidly.


35 posted on 07/29/2020 4:18:15 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: yesthatjallen

I have a 2014 3G Samsung ‘Rugby” flip phone, which gets 6-7 days to a charge. But I’m told that as of Feb 2021, it will no longer work, due to everything going 5G.

I loathe, despise and hate Apple, but will look into the SE, as I can’t figure out the Samsung Galaxy models.


36 posted on 07/29/2020 4:45:29 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Pox
Perhaps there is something else wrong, but it's interesting to me that now I know he isn't the only one having this issue.

Remember when every corner bodega had a tube tester, for when our color TV crapped out? Electronic stuff still breaks not, as often as it used to but still it does. You can buy a refurbed 6s for a hundred bucks replace it and move, electronic stuff don't last forever. I have many computers made by Apple that are much older than the 6s and they still work flawlessly as far as I know but I don't demand much from them. If they break I simply buy another used one and continue on.

Apples new entry iPhone is $399.00 and it has the same processor as last years top iPhone.

37 posted on 07/29/2020 4:47:46 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: yesthatjallen

This is an interesting site for those seeking to understand batteries in general, and lithium-ion batteries in particular:

https://batteryuniversity.com/

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

They strongly recommend against fully charging lithium batteries.


38 posted on 07/29/2020 4:58:24 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (China kills over 650,000 and the sheeple sleep. Cops kill one person, and cities burn.)
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To: tinamina

A lot of people like to keep their phones forever.

I toss mine about every year or two and upgrade

When I say toss I mean pitch.

I have a love hate relationship with my phone and when I’m done all it takes is one bad move from the phone or someone irritating and BLAM!!! I will pitch that thing 90mph into a wall and go get a new version.

That’s just me though...


39 posted on 07/29/2020 5:12:41 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Ditto what you said. I went to the Apple Store with identical symptoms on an IPhone to get help. Had to wait awhile for the Genius appointment but it took a minute of software troubleshooting to diagnose the battery being shot. My phone was at about 3X over the mean time between failure for battery life based on number of recharge cycles. Since the phone was performing well outside of the battery problems, I decided to invest the approximate $90 and 15 minutes of time for a new battery install. This bought me about 18 months of satisfactory service until I had a charging port problem and decided to retire it. Heck, I even got some trade in credit towards a new iPhone.

iPhone hardware/software diagnosis is zero cost at the Apple Store and is buried in a locked corner of IOS for technician access. I am not aware of that level of competent and personal tech support by any other manufacturer. About the only thing that the cell phone provider can do is to have.you reset the network settings on a phone. Anything else and they say talk to the phone manufacturer.

40 posted on 07/29/2020 5:58:52 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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