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CULTURAL IEDS BLOWING UP VDH Crosses a Rubicon
The VDH Podcast on Spotify ^ | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/17/2020 8:46:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup

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To: alexander_busek

They were newborn infants when adopted. They are adults now. They are mainstreamed into what is considered white values and culture. They do well.


41 posted on 08/18/2020 1:29:32 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: DeweyCA

I am sorry no he did not say majority. I was responding more to the use of the word hate. Have never heard a commentator say that.


42 posted on 08/18/2020 1:32:54 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: ifinnegan

The hatred of whites us not limited to blacks but is held by progressive whites as much if not more.

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Yes and that is so odd. sort of like the Jewish Soros dislike of Jews.


43 posted on 08/18/2020 1:36:11 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

Not all blacks hate non-blacks. But enough do.

It comes from the statistically significant difference in mean IQ, and the resulting significant differences in economic success.

Someone can either accept and acknowledge that, or decide that the reason for blacks, on average, not being as successful, MUST be because of a vast conspiracy by whites to keep blacks down.

Hate flows naturally from the latter assumption.


44 posted on 08/18/2020 1:38:30 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I disagree. I have worked with all levels of intelligence in my work life and moral values and goodness have been in my experience independent of intellectual capacity.


45 posted on 08/18/2020 1:49:14 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Uncle Miltie
”Black Lives Matter has taught me blacks are too dangerous to be around.”

It’s all about culture, not skin color. Black people who see being black as the center of their identity, and whose definition of “being black” is tied up in hoodies, violent rap “music”, and acting thuggish and intimidating, are people that I agree I don’t want to be around. But many normal black people would say that they don’t really want to be around people like that, either. In a sane world, it would be perfectly acceptable to point out the problems with thuggish gang member types, but we no longer live in a sane world, and too many people have been brainwashed to believe that any criticism of a “person of color” is “racist.”

By the same token, I wouldn’t want to have anything to do with a bunch of white supremacist skinheads, and would be wary myself about being around them. Again, not because of their (white) skin color, but because of their behavior and values. (i.e., their “culture”). For America to succeed, we have to share a common set of principles and values, and those have to be based around the founding principles that have proven themselves to be indispensable to prosperity and liberty.

The racial mix of the American populace matters not at all. It doesn’t matter what percentage are black, white, purple, or green. What DOES matter, though, is how many competing sets of cultural values we have, especially when the values held by some are held precisely because they are in defiance and opposition to America and civil society.

46 posted on 08/18/2020 2:59:53 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: Chickensoup

If VDH ever comes to the conclusion that sinners hate the Lord their God with all their heart, and with all their soul, and with all their might and that they hate their sinner neighbors as the hate their sinning selves, he might be om his way to becoming a conservative.


47 posted on 08/18/2020 3:32:59 AM PDT by Theophilus (we will remember the name of the Lord our God)
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To: Chickensoup

When I insisted that a black 4th-grade student sit in his seat and behave, he said “My momma told me that whitey will get you every time.”


48 posted on 08/18/2020 3:36:16 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Chickensoup

So does Obama hate himself?


49 posted on 08/18/2020 3:48:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: aquila48

Things haven’t changed much in this dysfunctional marriage. Time to peacefully, hopefully, end it. They consider us the oppressor. That’s the last thing we want to do. Let each side go their own way so they no longer will feel our “oppression”.
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Never thought I’d say this to a fellow Freeper, you are a bigot and ignoramus...and a coward. My black wife and biracial sons are likely more patriotic and pro Trump than you are. Difference is they aren’t bigots.


50 posted on 08/18/2020 3:49:47 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich ( "Where they delete tweets, they will in the end also delete people."-unseen1_unseen)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Never thought I’d say this to a fellow Freeper, you are a bigot and ignoramus...and a coward. My black wife and biracial sons are likely more patriotic and pro Trump than you are. Difference is they aren’t bigots.

You should be proud of them for sure. But you should also accept reality that they are the exception placing them in the .1% of all blacks and bi racial people. You are projecting.....

51 posted on 08/18/2020 4:03:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: jcon40

There are many black families that have achieved thier goals and dont want to lose what they have gained. Those who havent or refuse to are the problem


52 posted on 08/18/2020 4:09:54 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Chickensoup

I’m not talking about low intellectual capacity being a reason for hate.

I’m talking about the net result of being told all your life that the reason you aren’t making a six-figure middle class income, is because white people have conspired to keep you down.

Being told all your life that you are brilliant (when you’re not), that your ancestors were the real source of civilization and technology, that the US was built by the labor of black slaves, and that the fruits of your talent and labor has been STOLEN.

Do you see how a lifetime indoctrination in this would lead to anger and a desire for revenge?


53 posted on 08/18/2020 4:24:39 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: central_va

Never thought I’d say this to a fellow Freeper, you are a bigot and ignoramus...and a coward. My black wife and biracial sons are likely more patriotic and pro Trump than you are. Difference is they aren’t bigots.
You should be proud of them for sure. But you should also accept reality that they are the exception placing them in the .1% of all blacks and bi racial people. You are projecting.....
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Blanket statements are always a non-thinking person’s escape...it is itself projecting...I do not project illusions of grandeur...instead I offer you numerous conservative commenters, many of which have been quoted on Freep. I have no patience for small minds.


54 posted on 08/18/2020 4:29:30 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich ( "Where they delete tweets, they will in the end also delete people."-unseen1_unseen)
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To: aquila48; All

Please stop giving conservatives a bad name. That is some top shelf shit right there. I am also disappointed more freepers haven’t spoken out against this


55 posted on 08/18/2020 4:39:49 AM PDT by enduserindy (IÂ’m done explaining basic math and the definition of freedom.)
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To: Robert DeLong

“True to a degree, but that is certainly not the case with 100% of blacks.”

I agree. It was a little beneath Victor to make a statement like tnat.


56 posted on 08/18/2020 4:40:34 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: SauronOfMordor

I see how indoctrination would lead to false expectattoos and seething anger. Just like college students were misled about the value of generic degrees. It has nothing to do with intelligence but rather with manipulation and poor moral character.


57 posted on 08/18/2020 4:50:25 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: aquila48; ifinnegan; higgmeister; Gene Eric; CincyRichieRich; enduserindy

aquila48; thank you for that insight into the thinking of Lincoln during a time of severe unrest and difficult change in America.

I don’t know why some Freepers are condemning you personally for something Lincoln said. Ignorance I suppose.

How many times have we all heard the short version of these thoughts; “we should have picked our own damn cotton”. Basically if they could have looked into the future to see the intensity of the problems importing blacks to work the farms and other labor jobs the 3% who owned slaves back then (including blacks) would cause they would have hired and paid people to do the work rather than buy slaves which was a routine event during that time as repugnant as it is to us today.

It’s clear to most of us many blacks are able to incorporate into American society just fine but many are not. I think it was those that cannot assimilate that Lincoln was thinking of.

I join others wishing we would have picked out own damn cotton. It’s really too bad many blacks will always be a problem. Treating them like victims only prolongs this problem.

I think blacks owe whites reparations for bringing them to the greatest, most free, country in the world. Instead they are pushing for it to become a Marxist, far less free, nation.

Multi-culturalism does not work. That much is 100% crystal clear. Not when the cultures are so different.

We will have turned a corner on race relations when “African-Americans” are simply referred to as Americans with no heritage or color qualifier. That may never happen.

Lincoln had some very good points. Had he been heeded at the time; America would be very different and far less volatile today.


58 posted on 08/18/2020 6:24:16 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftists/Leftism ruins everything it touches.)
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To: Boomer

“It’s clear to most of us many blacks are able to incorporate into American society just fine but many are not. I think it was those that cannot assimilate that Lincoln was thinking of.”

Obviously Aquila does not agree in advocating that: “The only long term solution to the black-white race problem is separation into separate countries.”

You wrote “I don’t know why some Freepers are condemning you personally for something Lincoln said. Ignorance I suppose.”

Perhaps now you know it was aquila’s personal opinion for today, and perhaps your reading comprehension can improve.


59 posted on 08/18/2020 7:25:50 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CincyRichieRich

It’s the larger mind that can accept reality.


60 posted on 08/18/2020 8:23:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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