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Toyota CEO Agrees With Elon Musk: We Don't Have Enough Electricity to Electrify All the Cars
PJ Media ^ | DEC 21, 2020 | BRYAN PRESTON

Posted on 12/21/2020 4:15:45 PM PST by george76

Toyota makes a lot of cars, so many that it’s the world’s largest or second-largest auto manufacturer every year.

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So Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda’s comments at the company’s year-end press conference deserve notice and no little amount of respect. He knows more about cars and their economic ecosystem than just about anyone else on the planet.

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“The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets… When politicians are out there saying, ‘Let’s get rid of all cars using gasoline,’ do they understand this?”

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failure to count the cost of what politicians are proposing. More EVs will demand more electricity.

Toyoda is getting at two things. One, EVs are not powered by magical unicorn emissions, they are powered by the means we use to generate electricity. In the Japan, the United States, and everywhere else

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Wind is not economically competitive yet, so it’s subsidized by the government. Neither wind nor solar are cheap or reliable enough yet to displace oil and especially natural gas in our grid. The wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine. Oil and natural gas always burn.

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The second issue Toyoda is getting at is that petroleum isn’t just a fuel, it’s the foundation of thousands upon thousands of products we rely on every day. Cars alone have plastic and other petroleum-based parts throughout their systems and interiors. There is as of yet no reliable or economical replacement for the petroleum used to manufacture those parts

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Perhaps two of the world’s leading car experts should be listened to before Tokyo, Washington, or any other capital follows California’s lead and bans gas cars without considering the ripple effects.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: automotive; electricity; elonmusk; energy; hybrids; infrastructure; prius; tesla; toyota; twofaced; youaskedforit
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To: Dusty Road

And its a lot more clean burning, one of the cleanest forms of energy.

Which is why the left hates it


21 posted on 12/21/2020 4:32:20 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: george76

HAHAHAHA! I’ve been saying for years that the only way we go electric for more than half our cars is if we build a chitload of nuclear plants. It takes a lot of electricity to push two tons down the road for a few hundred miles. It’s ok if it’s a novelty item. But if you want it to become more common than internal combustion, our electrical grid is going to need a serious revamp.


22 posted on 12/21/2020 4:35:45 PM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: george76

Just add the seven more units at Palo Verde that were authorized in the original license but never built because of Three Mile Island.

23 posted on 12/21/2020 4:35:58 PM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: george76

I hear that electric motors are VERY efficient. That’s great if they are running off sunlight. But how is that electricity generated? Is that source equally efficient?


24 posted on 12/21/2020 4:36:41 PM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Robert DeLong

Bill Gates just raised his index finger to his lips, saying
“Shhh! We weren’t supposed to say that part out loud yet!”


25 posted on 12/21/2020 4:37:32 PM PST by lee martell
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To: george76

What is this idiot talking about? Everyone knows electricity comes from the socket in the wall.


26 posted on 12/21/2020 4:37:36 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: george76

Whoops.


27 posted on 12/21/2020 4:37:40 PM PST by conservative98
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To: cuban leaf

That’s why the Chinese are going full bore with coal. They want to limit gas cars and push electric cars.

https://www.wired.com/story/china-is-still-building-an-insane-number-of-new-coal-plants/


28 posted on 12/21/2020 4:37:42 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: BradyLS

We are going back to feudal days.

A form of slavery.


29 posted on 12/21/2020 4:38:16 PM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: george76

“Renewables”don’t work!!!!

https://www.nov79.com/renw.html


30 posted on 12/21/2020 4:40:20 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: george76

Maybe they should build more coal fired electrical plants all over the country.


31 posted on 12/21/2020 4:41:47 PM PST by euram
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To: Honorary Serb
“Renewables”don’t work!!!!

Don't need em.

China has 35 yrs supply of coal, apparently.

32 posted on 12/21/2020 4:41:51 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: george76
To make electric cars viable for the masses it's going to require two things: A breakthrough in battery technology, and a bunch of nuclear power plants to cleanly generate the electricity. Generating the electricity with coal or natural gas just shifts the location of the pollution. Hydroelectric is tapped out, we've dammed up every river we can for power. Solar and wind are niches that make the environmental nuts tingle but don't help much.

We currently don't have the battery technology, and the environmental nuts won't let us build more nuke plants which is stupid because they're the only viable source of clean power we have. Somebody that really cared about the environment would be pushing for more nuclear.

33 posted on 12/21/2020 4:42:11 PM PST by GaryCrow
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To: george76
"EVs are not powered by magical unicorn emissions,"

Duh.

Movies imitate life, and our lives are now Idiocracy.

34 posted on 12/21/2020 4:44:05 PM PST by Jeepers43
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To: euram

No investor owned utility is going to risk doing anything but what the Democrat administration prescribes.

So new coal and nukes are never gonna happen in the USA, and nat gas is going to be phased out, just like California is doing now, with terrible results.


35 posted on 12/21/2020 4:44:08 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Regulator

Pinnacle West will never fully build out Palo Verde. Never. You can read their resource plan going up to 2050, it does not include any new nuke generation.

It would cost nearly $ 3 billion per unit to build out Palo Verde. But the real limiting factor is lack of water for the massive cooling towers. Pinnacle West has tried to purchase reclaimed sewer water from Phoenix and the surrounding cities, but the cities won’ t sell their reclaimed water rights.


36 posted on 12/21/2020 4:45:06 PM PST by RooRoobird20
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To: nascarnation

maybe we should all invest in hay and horses, mules, and oxen.


37 posted on 12/21/2020 4:47:28 PM PST by euram
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To: george76

I like the hybrid cars and those are the reasonable compromises between the environmental nuts and everybody else.


38 posted on 12/21/2020 4:47:33 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: Regulator

Also, PV was supposed to have five units, not ten. They built the first three and then gave up because of massive public anti-nuke hysteria.


39 posted on 12/21/2020 4:47:55 PM PST by RooRoobird20
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Keep the variety. Different strokes for different folks....


40 posted on 12/21/2020 4:48:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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