Posted on 02/28/2022 4:05:49 PM PST by oblomov
Agree. Every citizen is cell phone videotaping the thousands of protestors as well.
Or Japan for that matter. Rape of Nanjing ring a bell? Or
the atrocities they committed in the Phillipines and Korea? Southeast Asians not from Japan say the same thing about Japanese viciousness.
And yet they’re one of our closest allies.
I don’t understand why people can’t see the legitimate Russian concerns here. The Great Patriotic War is still a very large, looming presence in every Russian mind. Take a look at the map. Ukraine provides the same route of attack that Hitler took. There was an equilibrium to the Warsaw Pact/NATO situation. Forces were relatively equal and the threat to either side accepted. Take the forces of East Germany, Hungary, Poland, the Baltic States, Bulgaria and change their side and you’ve destroyed the equilibrium that has prevented WWIII. Once that equilibrium was destroyed, the NATO Alliance started a “domino effect” recruitment of extremely hostile Russian border states. Ukraine would put NATO in the very belly of Russia. There will no Ukrainian government aligned with the West. It would be unconscionable for Putin to allow this to happen. Putin or any Russian strongman to come will fight NATO, if necessary, to keep NATO out of Ukraine. Any unbiased eye can see that.
Welcome to the Putin Stooge Club!
So Germany has never been ‘relentlessly vicious’? You exist in a parallel universe
So far in history, Communists have only been social radicals while out of power. Almost every Communist state in history (with only one or two exceptions) were socially conservative and continually attacked western decadence. Out of power they're transgender hippie freaks; in power they're Todor Zhivkov.
It past time this infantile idiocy being circulated by supposed “Conservatives” be immediate dropped. Russia has no moral standing for what it is doing. Russian has no legal standing for what it is doing. Ru
This childish Russiphila where people who should absolutely know better race around the web trying to manufacture rationalization instead of holding Putin accountable is utterly sickening
It 1938 and you morons are siding with Hitler. Stop it you pathetic idiots. Stop channeling your inner Neville Chamberlains.
Someone on The Five said that the Russian people have no idea what is going on in Ukraine.
I’m not siding with anyone. As I wrote earlier:
This war is a war between two factions of the left: a nationalist, neo-Stalinist state (Russia), and a transnational corporatist progressive superstate (US/NATO). Ukraine is in the middle.
Which of these left factions is worse?
Twenty years ago, I would have unequivocally have said Russia. But after having heard endless lies from our “intelligence agencies”, and having watched them manufacture evidence to try to remove Trump from office twice and finally oust him by throwing an election, I’m not sure.
I detest both of these left factions.
No matter if every single one of your demented fantasies about the NWO and Ukraine were true, there is utterly NO moral, intellectual or legal standing for Putin's actions
It 1938 and you all are siding with Hitler. Stop being this stupid.
Neither do the American people.
99.9% of what I’ve seen has been propaganda from one side or another. And there are more than two sides, so it seems.
Sure there is, if you bothered to read and research Russian history for the last 500 years you might understand.
If China were to move into Northen Mexico and controlled some of the those Mexican states what would our reaction be. Go back to the Cuba Crisis in 1962.
B/S.
Nope. Nato/US has nothing at all to do with Putin invading Ukraine. This is the sort of sloppy make belive rationaization being thrown around by supposed “conservatives” that are utterly inexucsiable
There is no making exucses for Putin’s actions. There are without any rational, legal or moral standing.
If Putin is worried about Nato and Ukraine an acceptable reponse would be to neogitate alliancew with China, and Mexico and anyone else who would join him. The use of force here is wholly illegal and immoral.
What was our justification for invading Serbia, in violation of international law, with NATO in 1999?
Would Russia have been justified in stopping the new Hitler from invading their ally?
Your ignorance on the facts on this topic is total. Stop being a mindless stooge and learn how the world actually works.
No matter what demented fantasies you have about the NWO and Ukraine, none of them give Putin any legal, moral or rational justification to invade a neighbor.
It 1938 and you are siding with Hitler. Stop being this utterly stupid.
I said above that Putin’s actions aren’t justified.
Neither were the coups that we sponsored in Ukraine. John McCain and Joe Biden and Barack Obama were all supporters of them. McCain even bragged about it.
Maybe both the US and Russia should stop intervening in Ukraine.
I detest both of the two left factions that are at war in Ukraine.
@MNJohnnie, you’d be more persuasive if you wrote in all-caps.
You are seriously embarrassing yourself here trying to use Leftist debate tactics on a Conservative website.
> That you oppose people who oppose Putin does not make Putin's action above criticism.
In fact, the argument for Putin here are the same as the Leftist fascists used to justify their violent attacks on Trump supporters.
Basically the argument being put forward is “Putin doesn't like the Ukraine's politics so it OK for him to send his storm trooper in to violently stop them
NO IT IS NOT
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