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1 posted on 05/17/2022 7:53:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Intelligent Design, the true witness in agreement with the truth of God's Word (Romans 1:20).
2 posted on 05/17/2022 7:57:25 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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I recommend Michael Behe’s book Darwin’s Black Box.


3 posted on 05/17/2022 7:57:28 AM PDT by ecomcon
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It is good that we are making progress on the margins in one discipline in academia, but it may be too little, too late, as traditionalist views are being routed in the broader socio-cultural debate.


4 posted on 05/17/2022 7:57:46 AM PDT by nwrep
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Assuming that we were,in fact,swinging from the trees 50 million years ago it's every bit as easy,IMO,to imagine God....or some amazingly powerful "force"...having orchestrated our decent from the trees,our ability to walk upright and our eventual ability to design and build a 747 as it is to believe it was all just one silly coincidence after another.

I,personally,don't have a huge problem with genuine agnostics...those who,after serious thought and reflection, are uncertain if God exists or not.It's the atheists I have a serious problem with...and the militant atheists that I have the biggest problem with.

5 posted on 05/17/2022 8:10:23 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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if there is ‘intelligent design’, why do we have liberals?


8 posted on 05/17/2022 8:17:03 AM PDT by wny ( )
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Scientists can sometimes be quite dense. You don’t have to be a scientist to know that the universe as it exists now could not just create itself out of nothing. And you can’t claim that it has always been there without facing the logical nightmare of going infinitely backwards in time.


10 posted on 05/17/2022 8:21:20 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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I see this as more of a linguistic dispute, instead of a scientific one. First, what is meant by “intelligent” or “intelligence”, and second, less obviously, how do we define consciousness and is the universe itself a conscious intelligence?


11 posted on 05/17/2022 8:23:28 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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For centuries, the best minds on earth have labored to reproduce the human hand. The best efforts have been almost comical.

Today we've got the best surgeons, physical therapists, plastics engineers, mechanical engineers, computer scientists, metallurgists, etc, working to reproduce the human hand.

Heck, we've even got 3D computer imaging and robotics. Still, the best all the above can accomplish is a poor facsimile, at best.

All the above geniuses working in concert cannot produce anything near the original, but we're expected to believe the original just "happened" by dumb chance?

And multiply that by the entire human body. The cardio and pulmonary and vascular and audio and ocular and reproductive and muscular and.............

Only a deliberately blind fool could possibly suggest there is no Benevolent, Omniscient, Omnipotent Creator God. And, such a Being, an All Loving Being, is going to communicate to His creation. Hence, the Bible.

Ps 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made..........

15 posted on 05/17/2022 8:40:12 AM PDT by LouAvul
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Did Adam or Eve have navels (belly buttons)?

If the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil had been snapped in half by the wind of a hurricane or tornado on Day 6 of creation, would it be seen to have tree rings?

If it were so that the fruit of the vine (wine) can or could be analyzed so as to allow its origin to be traced to a specific grape vine, would the wine created by Christ Jesus at Cana feature or reflect such origin-specifying hallmarks?

If the assertions of so-called Young Earth Creationists are to be credited as true, what are we to make of certain rock formations, or certain aspects of the fossil record?

Are those who believe that the earth is young (e.g., <10k years) saying or implying that God is a liar?

Was light associated with distant stars and galaxies created “in transit”?

These are a few of the questions that inevitably arise when the topics “Appearance of Age” and “Appearance of History” are raised and discussed.

Note that this commenter has not ventured to answer any such questions!


16 posted on 05/17/2022 8:42:16 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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Yes, it's very easy to explain things which Science is still struggling to fully plumb when you can simply exclaim, "A Wizard did it!"

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt

Regards,

17 posted on 05/17/2022 8:45:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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For those who don’t know, there is a non-religious version of Intelligent Design.

It claims that Creation is a simulation.

(Of course nobody knows who or what did the simulation.. :-) )

Even is you disagree with the hypothesis, it is important because it allows non religious scientists to accept Intelligent Design as “non crazy”.


18 posted on 05/17/2022 8:46:02 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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The story of the Big Bang requires more faith than the story of Creation.


23 posted on 05/17/2022 8:58:38 AM PDT by I want the USA back (A totally corrupt media willingly lies to protect a totally corrupt administration. )
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EVERYTHING that we see, hear, touch, smell, and witness, indicates that, none of it was by accident or created by chaotic theories. Even the atom and sub-atomic particles, and energy (in all forms), indicate that, there is intelligence behind it all.

If one looks out in the universe, what may seem chaotic organization, all has a design behind it.

Then, there is DNA, where no chaotic theory or accident of nature, could explain the fantastic composition that exists within. It’s unimaginable that nature b itself could create a tiny microscopic living cell with chromosomes and genes, which if allowed to mature, creates an entire human being, capable of looking back at itself and wonder about how and why.

The intelligence which created humans and all living things, and the universe to live in, has to be thousands if not millions of times more intelligent than us mere insignifacnt humans.


28 posted on 05/17/2022 9:03:57 AM PDT by adorno
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If design is so “Intelligent”, why design 350, 000 different species of beetles? Wouldn’t 100, 000 be enough?


31 posted on 05/17/2022 9:07:58 AM PDT by barney10
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One of the best book I’ve read on the subject is Stephen Meyer’s “Signature in the Cell”.

A real tour-de-force in making the case for ID using scientific arguments and known facts and not relying on any religious arguments.

It changed my belief regarding the origin of life to where I now consider ID the most plausible explanation, while still remaining open to anything better that might come along.


40 posted on 05/17/2022 9:49:05 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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The left tries to excuse these problems as “the God of the gaps”. The trouble is, every new scientific just increases the gaps, not resolve them.


43 posted on 05/17/2022 9:54:51 AM PDT by circlecity
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“ Even Rice University chemist James Tour (who considers himself “agnostic” toward intelligent design) argued that origin-of-life researchers have deceived the public into believing that we are close to understanding how life formed, when we are not.‘

Listen to this guy on YouTube. He is a brilliant biochemist who designs molecules for a living. He points out the incredible complexity of the simplest life forms and shows how they could not be formed randomly.

44 posted on 05/17/2022 9:57:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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Evolution is true.......

BUT we don’t understand how it works!!!!


48 posted on 05/17/2022 10:08:47 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Here is book written by a lawyer. He got involved by the mathematics and probability of evolution.
Good read. Mathematics intensive .

‘A Case Against Accident and Self-organization’
Dean L. Overman


62 posted on 05/17/2022 10:35:36 AM PDT by Vinnie ( L g Brandon)
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Anytime and anywhere matter behaves in a functional, cohesive way there is evidence of intelligent design. The best evidence contradicting intelligent design is chaos and the absence of any ability to comprehend it.


67 posted on 05/17/2022 10:40:54 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew ("Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -G.K. Chesterton)
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