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Juror Who Acquitted Sussmann: ‘There Are Bigger Things’ Than Lying to FBI
breitbart ^ | 31 May 2022 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 06/01/2022 5:50:44 AM PDT by MarvinStinson

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61 posted on 06/01/2022 8:00:15 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Lurker
Durham threw this case intentionally.

I agree, sort of. I think Durham punted when he brought the case in the first place.

Here we have a case of huge potential felonies being committed and he picks a relatively minor decision maker and charges him with what looks and sounds like a misdemeanor. Yes, the lie had a big impact on a cooperative, even anxious FBI, but it would not have worked without the willingness of the agency to believe what they were hearing.

I don’t think Durham is going to go after any of the biggies let alone her majesty.

62 posted on 06/01/2022 8:01:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

“Barry O was elected in 2008, and has not given the reins over to anyone else since. The Lords and Ladies of the realm support his Majesty.”

You are certainly right, Sir!
Barack is busy “fundamentally changing the USA,” as we speak.
He is the “man who never was,” a made up black Muslim, inserted into the Democrap Party. Cleaned up well and could read a teleprompter, case closed.
This has doomed our Republic unless we act against his treachery!


63 posted on 06/01/2022 8:31:29 AM PDT by BatGuano (Fauci = Mengele (Angel of Death) + End the IRS)
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To: MarvinStinson

64 posted on 06/01/2022 8:36:22 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: MarvinStinson

The point is that is a crime not whether she thinks it is a crime or a worthy enough crime to prosecute. She did not do her job. She ignored the charges and evidence and decided that the prosecution was wasting her time. A mistrial should have been called prior to the verdict and she should have removed herself from the jury. We have anarchy in our country.


65 posted on 06/01/2022 8:42:55 AM PDT by vivenne (")
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To: Magnum44

Is it ok to lie to the FBI now?

YES, it's OK, Great, Wonderful to LIE to the FBI - IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT.

If you're a Republican you'll go to jail.

Our "Lady Justice" statue has been replaced with a statue of a drunken whore, peeking out under her blindfold - winking at democrats while they stuff dollar bills under her g string.


66 posted on 06/01/2022 8:50:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (...those shouting loudest about “threats to democracy” are the threat. - DANIEL GREENFIELD )
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To: BatGuano

He is the King Saul, of Israel. Who was acclaimed King over Father in Heaven through his prophets.

So it was with Obama, acclaimed as “The one” by none other than Oprah and the entirety of officialdom. The Republicans wouldn’t even run a candidate against him. McCain, which literally means “son of Cain” was the sacrificial lamb.

There are so many Biblical parallels, it boggles the mind.

Saul was a handsome man, and “keeper of the asses”. Asses are Donkeys.

What are our public servants but Kings and Queens, Lords and Ladies?


67 posted on 06/01/2022 9:05:05 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Magnum44

Only if you’re a “D”.🙄


68 posted on 06/01/2022 9:58:23 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: MarvinStinson

I can’t say I don’t disagree with her; however, it has become a law that only applies to the little people or friends of Trump.


69 posted on 06/01/2022 10:02:18 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: one guy in new jersey

Imo, the FBI loves being lied to.


70 posted on 06/01/2022 10:07:07 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: subterfuge

Pathetic, but, in some cases this is certainly true. Viewed in this manner Attorney Sussman was merely feeding a deranged addiction. Not unlike a methadone clinic doctor.


71 posted on 06/01/2022 10:22:29 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: central_va

Please see my #71.


72 posted on 06/01/2022 10:31:44 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: MarvinStinson
CHANGE. It's also VERB and not just a noun.
73 posted on 06/01/2022 10:44:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Lurker

The evidence of guilt was overwhelming. Durham did not throw the case. The judge handcuffed the prosecutors by denying them the ability to present relevant evidence. Even if the prose utor was allowed to prese t that evidence, there was never going to be a conviction from a D.C. jury.


74 posted on 06/01/2022 11:17:13 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: MarvinStinson

Sussmann was guilty as hell. That said, it should not be a crime to lie to the FBI. It’s just an easy way to get a conviction when there really is no other evidence of other crimes.


75 posted on 06/01/2022 11:20:01 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Toespi

FYI, a jury has no obligation to follow the law and the instructions of the judge.


76 posted on 06/01/2022 11:21:36 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: MarvinStinson

When someone is interviewed by the FBI, there is no recording or video made of the interview. Usually citizens do have a their own legal counsel present. The FBI agents write up the official notes of the interview and historically courts have accepted those notes and recollections as the “truth”. When comparing the recollections of the FBI agent to the recollections of the defendant, the presumption of innocence goes out the window and the court assumes the FBI’s version is the the truth, even without corroborating evidence.

There have been enough instances publicized in recent years where FBI agents or supervisors edited or changed field interview notes to made the subject of the interview appear innocent or in other cases guilty. There is enough doubt in my mind as to honesty and fairness of FBI agents today that I would not submit to an FBI interview without my attorney present and a video camera rolling.

As a result of the behavior of the FBI, were I sitting on a jury I would be very skeptical of FBI interview notes unless the substance of the notes could be verified with other evidence. If the FBI notes are the only evidence of the defendant lying, and the FBI has a well deserved reputation itself for lying and falsifying information, it would be hard for me as a juror to convict someone of “lying to the FBI” without corroborating evidence that didn’t originate with the FBI.

It is sad that a once respected federal law enforcement agency has through its own actions shown it is more concerned with manufacturing “evidence” for a specific outcome than being objective and always supporting the truth.

Sussmann, as a US citizen deserves the same presumption of innocence as any other indicted citizen. If the FBI lied about Flynn, the FBI could have lied about Sussmann.


77 posted on 06/01/2022 1:04:08 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on i)
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To: WASCWatch

I understand that. But I do believe it was an extremely egregious thing to say and if I was accused of lying to them, it is exactly what my defense would be, win or lose.


78 posted on 06/01/2022 1:51:13 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: WASCWatch

“I find the defendant not guilty, there are a lot bigger ways to murder a person than a single gunshot”


79 posted on 06/01/2022 1:53:22 PM PDT by Toespi
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