Posted on 08/25/2022 9:47:29 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
“There are nowhere near one million Russian troops buried there.”
You had better re-think that comment.
They might not have been all “Russian” troops, but they were all part of Russia at one time or the other.
In WW2, I would bet there was a very large number of them killed or wounded in the Crimea..2 times. Once at the German Invasion and once when Russia took it back from the Germans.
Then count ALL the other wars fought on that piece of ground.
I would guess that there might be MORE, than 1 million “Russian” troops killed in that place since its conception.
I believe the Turks have a sizeable Black Sea fleet as well, and certainly many aircraft that can fly from Turkey. Plus the Turks could also go after Russian assets in the Med and Syria. It wouldn’t be a pushover for the Russians.
Ukraine could donate Snake Island to the US, which would make us a littoral state. :-)
Erdogan is just pissed that Catherine the Great bought the Crimea from Turkey in a sweet deal centuries ago.
His eyes are hallowing... Cancer weight loss starting big time...
Mariner said:
“Russia purchased Crimea from the Ottoman Empire. Since, they have buried a million soldiers there.”
So what is your estimate?
Even the experts havent any idea. They are guessing even for WW2.
That whole region has been nothing but one big constant war since the Vikings took control of it. Before that..the Muslims and even then much speculation even to the Greeks who had outposts on there.
But, if one has to ID them as Russian, then it goes to before the Rurik dynasty. Kievan Rus, which was an offspring of the Novgorod Rus. If one REALLY wants to understand..The Ukraine was largely Cossack at one time.
The word is supposed to be derived from a Nordic word meaning Swede or something like that...Viking.
DNA studies have been done and the present Russians have been found to be more aligned with the Finnish peoples than the Ukrainians who are a mixed bag. Which would makes sense since the Crimea,etc, has been the area of many ethnic groups.
Which also make sense to me since the fins are the most stubborn people I have ever known. And they can be heartless. Believe me I know.
“Before that..the Muslims”
Correction..the mongols came along after the Vikings and then it converted to Muslims.
In other words..it is one mixed bag of particularly historical nasty ethnic groups.
It was after 840 that Scandanavian Vikings—who were known in Eastern Europe as “Varangians” or “Rus”—established Viking rule over Slavic tribes in what came to be called Kievan Rus. At first, the region was divided between three noble brothers.
“The oldest, Rurik, located himself at Novgorod; the second, Sineus, at Beloozero; and the third, Truvor, in Izborsk,” recounts the Russian Primary Chronicle, a history of the region completed in the 12th century by Kievan monks. “On account of these Varangians, the district of Novgorod became known as the land of Rus.” (“Rus,” which is where the name “Russia” comes from, “purportedly” derives from an old Nordic word for “men who row.”)
Rurik’s brothers died within two years, so he claimed their territory and established Novgorod as the capital of his domain. After Rurik died, his successor Prince Oleg of Novgorod (or Oleg the Prophet) captured the city of Kiev in 882 and moved the capital from Novgorod to Kiev. In addition to capturing new territories to increase the size of Kievan Rus, Oleg also increased its wealth by negotiating a favorable trade deal with Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire.
Thanks for all the History. I do know the Viking founded Kievan Rus and that is about it. I know the Finns and Hungarians come from a similar group. That the other Scandinavia countries have similar ethnic backgrounds. But the Finns still get around. They marry Swedes and Norwegians and pick up those languages easily enough. Though Finnish is the odd man out of Scandinavian languages.
“Finnish and Hungarian are related languages”
Soon the steroids and drugs won’t plump up the hallow face.
And that almost looks like a tear on his cheek...
It is one mixed up historical mess is what it is. I believe all the cause of the Mongols and Muslims.
Dang,he looks worse than BiteMe.😲
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