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Top Russian General Filmed Lying to Putin’s Face in Awkward Briefing
The Daily Beast ^ | August 30, 2022 | Shannon Vavra

Posted on 08/30/2022 3:59:22 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler

How does a picture illuminate whether someone is lying? Apologies to Bubba and PIAPS as we know if their mouths are open....


41 posted on 08/30/2022 5:11:18 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Gen.Blather

This started out, most likely, as Russian propaganda, to, probably, reassure the Russian people that their government is on the side of the angels. I.E., of course it wasn’t a real meeting.

Its also lousy propaganda. Because Putins government sucks at that. The old Soviets would have shown little kids from the Donbas or wherever gleefully enjoying life in the sunshine, maybe threshing wheat or something, watched over by genial and obviously beloved Russian soldiers.

The spin on the video (it was a video on Russian news) is the appearance of Putin, and that is a fair cop. There is something wrong with him.


42 posted on 08/30/2022 5:17:50 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: FreshPrince

“You would mean the Russians right? This video was provided and promoted by russian media.“

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I wouldn’t expect anything more from you.


43 posted on 08/30/2022 5:19:08 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“ Well, you can read the transcript yourself, straight from the Office of the President of the Russian Federation at kremlin.ru.”

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Now that’s funny. You don’t care where you get your rumors from.


44 posted on 08/30/2022 5:22:12 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
This thread has been brought to you by George Soros.

This post brought to you by Russian brotherly 'love'


45 posted on 08/30/2022 5:34:35 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: Timber Rattler

He looks skeptical, but healthy and I don’t see any gripping.


46 posted on 08/30/2022 5:36:22 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: McGruff

Read the byline.


48 posted on 08/30/2022 5:51:48 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You triggered, bro?


49 posted on 08/30/2022 5:54:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Timber Rattler

daily Beast.You trolls will post any propaganda..
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penis piano-man Z having another bad day
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On August 29, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a full-scale counteroffensive in the Kherson region. The offensive on the fronts was preceded by intense artillery shelling of military positions of Russian forces, as well as cities under Russian control.

In the morning, Ukrainian units with a large number of manpower, significant support from equipment and remaining aircraft, tried to break through the Russian defense along almost the entire front line. In the first day of operations, they succeeded in three areas.

On the Black Sea coast, Ukrainian forces failed to develop an offensive and dislodge the Russians from the village of Alexandrovka.

Another offensive was carried out along the Mykolaiv- Kherson road. Ukrainians made a breakthrough up to 10 kilometers, but the Russian Armed Forces successfully counterattacked and repelled them back. Fierce clashes continue in Pravdino and Soldatskoe.

The Ukrainian counterattack in Blagodatnoe also failed. The village has recently come under Russian control and they are still holding their positions there.

The main gains of the Ukrainian military were reported in the areas of Andreevka and Davydov Brod. Ukrainian forces still have their strongholds in the village of Andreevka located on the left bank of the Ingulets river. They established a pontoon bridge in the area and managed to advance to the east in the steppe. The Ukrainians broke through to the village of a Sucky Starbucks and knocked out the defense in Davydov Brod. Both settlements are in the gray zone. Neither of the warring sides holds control over them.

In the north of the Kherson front line, the Ukrainian army tried to break through the Russian defenses in Vysokopolya and Olgino, but suffered heavy losses and failed to advance. Fierce clashes continue as the Russian grouping deployed in the area was cut from supply roads by fire from Ukrainian artillery.

The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the Ukrainian counterattack in the Kherson and Mykolaiv regions.

According to the Russian military, the attempt to attack in three directions failed and the Ukrainian army suffered heavy losses. On August 29, Russian forces destroyed 48 tanks, 46 infantry fighting vehicles, 37 other armored combat vehicles and 8 pickups with heavy machine guns. More than 1,200 Ukrainian servicemen were killed during the day.

However, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue their offensive and draw thee reserves along the entire southern front line, mainly in the area of Davidov Brod and Visokopolie. Despite suffering heavy losses in the steppes, Ukrainian forces are unlikely to step back. The bloody counteroffensive is vital to the Kiev regime which has to claim at least any victories on the front lines to prove the effectiveness of the multibillion-dollar weapons supplied by its Western partners.
. anyone know what are steppes?


51 posted on 08/30/2022 6:00:21 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: popdonnelly
"The Daily Beast"

You consider Stalinazi propaganda to be a credible source, Danny ?

52 posted on 08/30/2022 6:00:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Steely Tom

53 posted on 08/30/2022 6:17:22 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Ha! How many of your posts are copy-and-paste anti-Soros meme spam with zero original thinking applied?

Nice Soviet response though - ignored the question completely and replied with a cliche.

NOBODY would have this as a news story, if the Kremlin hadn’t posted the video up! Russia is perfectly capable of suppressing videos that might embarrass them somehow. Nothing goes up on the Kremlin website without the security and media control services making a decision.

So let’s try again - with the point of the question made a bit more obvious.

If “this thread was brought to you by Soros”, how do you account for the official Kremlin website hosting the video AND the transcript that the story this thread discusses?

Russia itself recorded it, triaged it, decided it’d be okay to release, edited it, and published it. It WANTED the West to see this.

It appears to show that Putin (a) isn’t comfortable and (b) is hearing arrant bullshit from the commanders. Maybe the regime is getting ready to hang the generals out to dry? Maybe they’re trying to point out that Putin needs to step down for the sake of his health?

NOTHING like that goes on Russian official sources without careful thought. That isn’t an accidentally leaked meeting, it’s a managed release.

We can see the same thing happening on the daily hate on Russian TV - the responses by the panellists to some of the talking heads border on raised eyebrows, eye-popping astonishment, awkward face-pulls, and recently even sniggering. That’s either a completely genuine response to being fed bullcrap by the official Kremlin line, or it’s totally staged.

We see the same thing with Zhirinovsky/Dugin/Putin takes on relations between Ukraine and Russia recycled daily on their state-run TV news, on their state-run websites, through pro-Russian blogs, and in their international forums e.g. at St Petersburg. The original articles and publications go back to the 90s and are academic rather than propaganda, but they’ve been turned into managed propaganda since.

We saw the same thing with Moscow’s man in Kherson, who admitted (after being outed by keen-eyed internet commentators) that he’s in safety in Russia. Just like Kadyrov, who was acting the hard man and pretending he was in the field of action when we could all see him stood outside a chain gas station that has ZERO presence in Ukraine.

A lot of it’s propaganda made purposefully for an audience inside Russia that is either conditioned to ignore any obvious discrepancies, or is simply too ignorant to notice them. But then one has to ask, why would Russia advertise its own pathological lying to its own people OUTSIDE Russia.

The whole point of these staged reports and interviews is to soften ordinary Russians up for a protracted war that might even spread into other countries and last for decades, but where everything’s tickety-boo at the front. If it triggers the west into being exactly what Russia wants us to be - the Russia-hating boogeyman - then it’s done the job.

So on that score, the people pumping out this propaganda are marching in time with Soros.


54 posted on 08/30/2022 11:17:07 PM PDT by MalPearce
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To: MalPearce
"the people pumping out this propaganda are marching in time with Soros."

And you're all in for Zelensky's corrupt puppet state.

55 posted on 08/30/2022 11:21:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Red6

“BTW, can you please provide me with the latest Russian casualty statistics, the thousands that died trying to take the steel plant, or the names of all the heros of Snake Island that fought to the last man?”

Nobody knows the casualty totals on either side. We never have. Unless, and I’m going out on a limb here, the Donbas and Ukraine figures have always been in the right ballpark and the biggest lies in this war have been the pro-Russian ones talking up the body count between 2014 and 2021.

According to the UN - and based entirely on verified data - only 25 civilians a year were dying as a result of conflict in the Donbas between January 2019 and the start of the Special Military Operation.

According to the DPR, it was more like 75 a year.

According to Russian proxies, it was THOUSANDS.

According to Russia (officially), they had nobody in the Donbas and so don’t know - they have approved the DPR’s figures so depending on the use case they either refer to the DPR numbers or refer to some back-of-a-beermat made up number.

According to some American freepers, most Q-Anon nutters and assorted Russian fascist sympathisers, everyone’s a liar except the anonymous source with his unproven beermat, wot reckons THOUSANDS of poor defenceless Russians were dying from genocide in the Donbas every year with not a single Russian combatant or a single non-Russian non-combatant even getting caught in the crossfire.

Which even the Kremlin doesn’t buy anymore - expecially not since one of the DPR’s top propagandists from 2014-2016 flat out told them straight, he made it up.


56 posted on 08/30/2022 11:36:37 PM PDT by MalPearce
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Still not answering the question, are you? Keep dodging, mate.

I’m not, by the way - but even if I was, so what? Z’s corrupt puppet state wasn’t being genocided - not by Azov nazis, and not by Russian fascists.

Funny thing about eastern Europe, they don’t give a tuppenny fuck about American randoms and their Soros gobohomo fixations - they just care about being able to go about their normal lives without being bombed.


57 posted on 08/30/2022 11:39:50 PM PDT by MalPearce
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To: JonPreston

Speaking of trolling...

On August 5, 2022 JonPreston put up the following post about me on this topic here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4083332/posts

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8/5/2022, 9:40:05 AM · 60 of 104
JonPreston to MercyFlush
Alphas like me are the real men. In contrast are you Beta males: weak, submissive, subordinate guys who are low status, eager to follow trends. This explains your attempt at stolen military valor that I’ve documented thoroughly. Please go away, and stop reporting me to the mods when I expose your neoconservativism!

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He claims to have ‘thoroughly documented’ my alleged “attempt at stolen military valor” and I have repeatedly challenged him to publicly publish this claimed documentation of his or to publicly issue a retraction.

Is JonPreston a liar? Is he a braggart? Is he a troll?

Ask him for his ‘thorough documentation’ and then you be the judge.


58 posted on 08/31/2022 10:43:39 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush
Explain yourself


To: JonPreston

You’ve opened yourself up to a tort with your libel against me and your false claim of ‘thorough documentation’ about ‘stolen valor’.

FR is published in California and any tort claim would have to take place within the next 24 months in a California court.

Is this what you want to do or will you 1) publish your claimed documentation or 2) publish your retraction?

50 posted on 08/08/2022 8:59:50 AM PDT by MercyFlush

59 posted on 08/31/2022 10:53:08 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

“Explain yourself”

I am not an attorney. If in fact you are located in the United States then consult with an attorney to get an idea of what you’ve done and what consequences you could incur.


60 posted on 08/31/2022 11:30:10 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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