Why the Ukraine Crisis is the West's fault: The Liberal Delusions that Provoked Putin

University of Chicago ^ | John Mearsheimer

[JonPreston]

I don’t speak to Biden supporting foreigners.

[higgmeister]

Go play with your tin soldiers, armchair General!

[tlozo]

LOL. And the CIA, EU and all the NGO money we can muster will make sure they choose to join the correct alliance.

Its amazing that Russia cannot understand why former captive nations do not want to 'join' Russia.

[canuck_conservative]

who you calling a foreigner, Irish commie?

sounds like you’re just making excuses again because, as usual, you got zero proof to back up your idiotic claims

that’s okay Comrade, nobody here believes you Russian shills anyway

[PGR88]

I do enjoy a good meme!

[Allegra]

“ зеленський любить дітей “

{snicker!}

[JonPreston]

nobody here believes you Russian shills anyway

Your Canadian opinion hold zero weight on an American forum

[McCarthysGhost]

They knew that this expansion of NATO into Ukraine would cause a war with a nuclear power. These are the same boys that stole The 2020 election in America putting America on a collision course with domestic war. Their message is clear. We will either rule the planet or destroy it.

[ansel12]

I’ll continue studying this war Russia started in Europe.

[JonPreston]

+100

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Exactly - this is like blaming a woman for getting beaten up by her abusive husband because she "provoked" him by going to a class reunion with her friends or something.

The problem is Russia's I sistence that it has the right to direct the policies of its neighbors. If NATO had tried to move nuclear weapons into Ukraine, that's a different issue. But that's not what happened.

[GOPJ]

As the Cold War came to a close, Soviet leaders preferred that U.S. forces remain in Europe and NATO stay intact, an arrangement they thought would keep a reunified Germany pacified. But they and their Russian successors did not want NATO to grow any larger and assumed that Western diplomats understood their concerns. The Clinton administration evidently thought otherwise, and in the mid-1990s, it began pushing for NATO to expand. The first round of enlargement took place in 1999 and brought in the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland. The second occurred in 2004; it included Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia. Moscow complained bitterly from the start. During NATO’s 1995 bombing campaign against the Bosnian Serbs, for example, Russian President Boris Yeltsin said, “This is the first sign of what could happen when NATO comes right up to the Russian Federation’s borders. ... The flame of war could burst out across the whole of Europe.” But the Russians were too weak at the time to derail NATO’s eastward movement -- which, at any rate, did not look so threatening, since none of the new members shared a border with Russia, save for the tiny Baltic countries.

This makes sense... Back in the 60's WE didn't want Cuba with missiles 90 miles off our border either...

[Tallguy]

“The US has become an unofficial empire that lets most of its satellites keep their own flags and set most of their own domestic policies as long as they openly support LGBTQ efforts.”

No. It’s way more than that. It’s the US banking & trade system. And if you want to be a player at that table you have to be an overt ally. That means that your armed forces are trained and mostly equipped by the USA.

[JonPreston]

I agree

[JonPreston]

The Clinton administration evidently thought otherwise, and in the mid-1990s, it began pushing for NATO to expand. The first round of enlargement took place in 1999 and brought in the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland. The second occurred in 2004; it included Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia. Moscow complained bitterly from the start.

Yes, Clinton was a Democrat Neocon who unleashed “Madeleine’s War” in the Baltics

[Flag_This]

" Do I have to post any one of the thousands of PedoJoe pics that you are ignoring simply because you revel in war?"

Day after day, post after post, you support the guy who sent tanks into a neighboring country. If that's not reveling in war, I don't know what is. I'm very sorry the Ukrainians are putting up a fight and making your pedo look bad.

[Mariner]

I absolutely am

[JonPreston]

Why are you defending Pedo Joe and his proxy war?

[Glad2bnuts]

Our own governmental agencies, had as policy that NATO need not move further towards Russia. The same politicians who said “moving NATO closer to Russian borders will provoke a severe response”.

WE DID IT, in our glorious move to control the entire world, we move to destroy our own nation and every other on this planet.

Our country is filling up with the riff raff of the world, while our “betters” worry about shi’ite 5,000 miles from home. The reasoning is, to stop the next big war? How did that work with Poland, when Britain set the trigger point for war with Germany at the invasion of Poland?

It is simply time to pull out of NATO, the UN and take care of the States on North America. I frankly don’t care if we have troops stationed anywhere other than on our own soil.

Remember this, Russia doesn’t have troops in Mexico and Canada. WE have troops all over the world. How many nations do we have troops in? 200?300? 5?

[Glad2bnuts]

100% love it.