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EXCLUSIVE: Shotgun WAS found near the body of Clinton aide linked to Jeffrey Epstein: He texted wife 'found a perfect place for a nap' before blasting his chest and falling from bench with electrical cord tied around his neck
DAILY MAIL ^ | 23 February 2023 | MARTIN GOULD

Posted on 02/23/2023 8:52:03 AM PST by george76

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To: Red Badger

Was Fahmy Malak anywhere close to give his medical examination over the phone?

The Clinton Body Count...Needs to be updated.

https://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/cdw3.html


41 posted on 02/23/2023 9:25:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: FamiliarFace

Coach guns are pretty short.


42 posted on 02/23/2023 9:25:42 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: tet68

This guy is amazing .

He threw the gun 30 feet away after shooting himself.


43 posted on 02/23/2023 9:25:47 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: george76

Huh- initial reports yesterday said there WAS no gun found near his body - and now suddenly there is?

Very suspicious - as are a lot of “suicides” connected to the Clintons.


44 posted on 02/23/2023 9:26:22 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Steely Tom

Right. Somebody texted his wife. Could have been Middleton, could have been somebody from Clinton’s clean-up crew.

This would make a great project for a bulldog investigative journalist. But such a journalist had better be damn careful. Journalist (and ‘What’s My Line’ panelist) Dorothy Kilgallen was investigating the JFK assassination. She remarked to a friend that she was close to a breakthrough.

Then she dies of a drug overdose.


45 posted on 02/23/2023 9:27:55 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Bayard
The gun walked 30 ft away after shooting him in the stomach.

The discharge force may have been enough to propel it that far. *IF* the guy killed himself, he couldn't hold the gun very well when he pushed the trigger. Nothing for the gun to push against, it will be propelled away from him like a rocket.

46 posted on 02/23/2023 9:29:29 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: george76
The shotgun was supposedly found thirty feet away?

...just far enough to keep it out of the photos of the crime scene.

...until other photos show up.

47 posted on 02/23/2023 9:30:16 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Nah, he didn’t have to throw it. It had a FIERCE recoil.

Either that or the squirrels all got together and moved it.


48 posted on 02/23/2023 9:36:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

> Nothing for the gun to push against, it will be propelled away from him like a rocket. <

You’re right. It’s a conservation of momentum kind of thing. And it would lead to a very interesting experiment. Set the shotgun up on a low-friction table, with the same load. Fire it, and see how far back it goes.

Of course this experiment will not be done. The results might not fit the narrative.
So why take the chance?


49 posted on 02/23/2023 9:37:42 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: george76

According to the article: “Coroner Theodore Brown noted that Middleton had a history of depression and ruled his death a suicide.”

Ok, but how did the shotgun land 30 feet away? Equally perplexing is how he was able to “pull” the trigger. I am 6’2” tall. I measure 27” from the center of my chest to the tip of my longest finger. Most shotguns have a barrel length of 26 to 30 inches, and the trigger sits an inch or two behind the barrel. He would then have to “push” the trigger another .50” to .75” with his finger to fire the shotgun. Seems highly unlikely unless the shotgun had an 18” riot barrel.


50 posted on 02/23/2023 9:41:09 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Billthedrill

>six-year-olds standing over a busted cookie jar

Guilty. My neighbor’s cookie jar too. Mom wasn’t happy.


51 posted on 02/23/2023 9:42:14 AM PST by fretzer
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To: george76

This happened many months ago. It isn’t that a gun wasn’t found right away; it is that parts of the story didn’t come out to the media right away. Apparently, his family has been fighting to keep details out of the news, such as the body photos, for privacy reasons, just like Kobe Bryant’s wife. He did have serious depression.


52 posted on 02/23/2023 9:43:21 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: george76
According to Stoeger, their Coach Gun shotguns weigh in between 6.3 and 6.5 lbs., depending on the model.
53 posted on 02/23/2023 9:44:33 AM PST by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” ("Every nation has the government it deserves.”) )
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To: george76

Shotgun must have been dragged 30 feet by a chupacabra.


54 posted on 02/23/2023 9:47:43 AM PST by FreedomForce
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To: Leaning Right
You’re right. It’s a conservation of momentum kind of thing. And it would lead to a very interesting experiment. Set the shotgun up on a low-friction table, with the same load. Fire it, and see how far back it goes.

Or we could make some assumptions and calculate it.

Someone can find the velocity and weight of the expelled shot, and then we can figure out how much energy it took to accelerate it to that speed. Then we can apply the reaction force to the mass of the gun, and see if it is sufficient to propel it to somewhere near that distance before it hits the ground. (Impact/Friction with the ground will slow it down a *LOT*)

I don't want to do it. It's been awhile since I did this stuff.

My recollection of how much force a shotgun applies to the shoulder leads me to believe it might propel the gun 30 feet.

55 posted on 02/23/2023 9:52:02 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Labyrinthos

“Most shotguns have a barrel length of 26 to 30 inches, “

A Coach Gun has a barrel length of 18 to 20 inches. He could have pushed the trigger. I don’t know about it flying 30 feet away though.


56 posted on 02/23/2023 9:54:57 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: george76
It's anybody's guess what really happened, but here's what the Daily Mail wrote earlier in the week:

The deputy said a search of Middleton's vehicle turned up three boxes of buckshot and a gun case – but no weapon.

So was that statement that there was no weapon in the car taken to mean that no weapon was found on the scene? Stranger things do happen in the media, and the Daily Mail may not have anybody on the ground in Arkansas.

It pays to be suspicious of the Clintons, but also to be suspicious of rumors. I remember years ago, some blogger shot himself in the bathroom of Richard Mellon Scaife's building and the rumor circulated that he was found with two bullets in the brain, but nobody provided a source for that, so far as I know.

57 posted on 02/23/2023 9:56:20 AM PST by x
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To: plain talk

Nice pic of Beelzebubba and Hitlery.


58 posted on 02/23/2023 9:56:29 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: george76

When the report isn’t right the first time on critical details is it now right the second time with the additions?


59 posted on 02/23/2023 10:00:31 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Labyrinthos

I used to own a pair of those Stoeger coach guns, a 12 gauge and a 20 gauge. They have 18 inch barrels and since they are break action doubles, they have little action length. A big guy could reach far enough to fire them. Also, people that commit suicide with long guns will put their toe on the trigger.


60 posted on 02/23/2023 10:03:05 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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