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Why Ukraine may embrace China’s peace plan
Asia Times ^

Posted on 03/20/2023 4:14:42 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: FarCenter

Well, let’s see how this sits with UMCRevMom. LOL
Tens of thousands of lives? More likely over 100 thousand lives destroyed. Why? Because Biden is Zelensky’s puppet?
Too bad the DeepState does not care about defending the borders of the USA to any meaningful degree.


41 posted on 03/20/2023 8:40:17 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian (.)
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The US has broken it’s promise to forego NATO expansion and Merkel admitted that the US and European Union never had any intention of adhering to the Minsk agreements.


42 posted on 03/20/2023 9:57:01 AM PDT by Tacticalman
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The US has broken it’s promise to forego NATO expansion

What treaty said that? It doesn't exist.

Merkel admitted that the US and European Union never had any intention of adhering to the Minsk agreements.

First of all, Merkel didn't sign the Minsk Agreement. Second of all, her quote is deceptively edited. Third, if the plan was to arm Ukraine for war starting in 2014(Minsk) why did countries including Obama's US refuse to send Ukraine lethal weaponry for two years until Trump sent the first weapons to Ukraine-Javelins?

43 posted on 03/20/2023 11:45:31 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBNEKHkADD8

Update on Russian military operations for March 20, 2023:

- Russian forces are not only encircling the fortified city of Bakhmut, but now also apparently Avdiivka;

- Both cities are heavily fortified positions along Ukraine’s main defense line in the Donbass region and their encirclement will compromise the entire defense line;

- Western media continues admitting critical shortages of Ukrainian manpower, weapons, and ammunition;

- As Ukraine is preparing for its spring offensive, the US and its allies are likely utilizing emergency stockpiles to surge the amount of artillery and rocket ammunition to Ukraine in amounts much higher than have recently been transferred;

- his surge is a one-time possibility after which Western stockpiles will be exhausted and future shipments will depend mainly on monthly ammunition production which and will be for several years unable to match or exceed Russian ammunition supplies;

- Ukraine is being forced to organize a massive offensive using poorly trained troops operating equipment they are unfamiliar with against Russian forces who have been preparing to meet this offensive months in advance; - Ukrainian forces could once again compel Russian forces into withdrawals but will suffer immense losses before facing counteroffensives comprised of 350k Russian reservists;

44 posted on 03/20/2023 3:12:16 PM PDT by Kazan (I)
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You asked about promises. Obviously, a promise isn’t a treaty.
And, yes, 0bama DID send arms to the Ukraine. Trump sent more.

Merkel DID sign the Minsk Agreement. There is no “deceptive” editing.

Are you an SBU troll?


45 posted on 03/21/2023 5:53:27 AM PDT by Tacticalman
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And, yes, 0bama DID send arms to the Ukraine. Trump sent more.

No, Obama sent only non-lethal military aid.

Merkel DID sign the Minsk Agreement

Easy enough to verify. Signers of Minsk 2 Agreement: Separatist's leaders Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky, Swiss diplomat and OSCE representative Heidi Tagliavini, Former president of Ukraine and Ukrainian representative Leonid Kuchma, Russian Ambassador to Ukraine and Russian representative Mikhail Zurabov

While the Trump administration was the first willing to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine, the Obama administration did provide defense and military equipment.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/16/politics/us-ukraine-aid-fact-check/index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

46 posted on 03/21/2023 7:53:37 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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