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New Tech Transforms Sea Water Into Hydrogen Fuel for Cars
The Epoch Times ^ | April 14, 2023 | Naveen Athrappully

Posted on 04/14/2023 9:52:05 AM PDT by Perseverando

A Toyota Project Portal hydrogen fuel cell electric semi-truck is shown during an event in San Francisco, Calif., on Sept. 13, 2018. (Stephen Lam/Reuters)

Researchers have come up with a new system that turns seawater into hydrogen fuel—a development that could aid in the proliferation of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.

The new method extracts hydrogen from the ocean by funneling seawater through a double membrane system, using electricity. The design was successful in generating hydrogen gas without the accompaniment of large quantities of harmful byproducts.

Vehicles with hydrogen fuel cells are fed with compressed hydrogen gas. The fuel cells do not burn this gas. Instead, cells transform the chemical energy of the fuel into electrical energy, which then powers the vehicle’s electric motors. The only byproduct is pure water, with zero tailpipe emissions.

“Many water-to-hydrogen systems today try to use a monolayer or single-layer membrane. Our study brought two layers together,” said Adam Nielander, an associate staff scientist with the SUNCAT Center for Interface Science and Catalysis, a SLAC-Stanford joint institute, according to an April 11 news release.

“These membrane architectures allowed us to control the way ions in seawater moved in our experiment,” he added. Results of the study were published in the Joule journal on April 11.

The Double Membrane System Researchers tested out their double membrane system using electrolysis—a method that uses electricity to drive ions to run a desired reaction. The most harmful element to the seawater system is chloride, says Joseph Perryman, a SLAC and Stanford postdoctoral researcher.

“There are many reactive species in seawater that can interfere with the water-to-hydrogen reaction, and the sodium chloride that makes seawater salty is one of the main culprits,” he said.

“In particular, chloride that gets to the anode and oxidizes will reduce the

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automobiles; energy; fuelcells; h20; hydrogen; seawater; water
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An electric vehicle alternative to Chinese lithium batteries?

Will China, internation big oil and the oligarchs snatch up the patents on this sea water hydrogen fuel cell technology to maintain their strangle hold on energy production?

1 posted on 04/14/2023 9:52:05 AM PDT by Perseverando
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2 posted on 04/14/2023 9:56:20 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, LGBTQs, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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Pass the salt. Good only for those hoax deniers with mansions on the beach? Should lower sea levels.


3 posted on 04/14/2023 9:56:24 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Perseverando

They also found that hydrogen-powered drones have 10 to 20 times the range and the ability to instantly refuel when powered by hydrogen


4 posted on 04/14/2023 9:56:33 AM PDT by dila813
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"The new method extracts hydrogen from the ocean by funneling seawater through a double membrane system, using electricity."

Where does the electricity come from?

5 posted on 04/14/2023 9:57:03 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Perseverando
Will China, internation big oil and the oligarchs snatch up the patents on this sea water hydrogen fuel cell technology to maintain their strangle hold on energy production?

Toyota is quite large in its own right. The main problem is storing hydrogen. Also, the article doesn’t state how MUCH electricity is needed for the generation of h2.
6 posted on 04/14/2023 9:58:01 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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They also found that hydrogen-powered drones have 10 to 20 times the range and the ability to instantly refuel when powered by hydrogen

Interesting. I hadn't heard that.

7 posted on 04/14/2023 9:58:03 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, LGBTQs, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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New Tech Transforms Sea Water Into Hydrogen Fuel for Cars; This miracle system produces more energy than it uses or perpetual motion discovered.


8 posted on 04/14/2023 9:58:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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That is usually how it’s done with a monopoly wanting to hold on to it’s cornered market. A lot of great and creative inventions have probably been ‘put to sleep’ in this way.


9 posted on 04/14/2023 9:58:38 AM PDT by lee martell
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“...Where does the electricity come from?...”

Well, you know.....the thing!!! Woke Unicorn farts.


10 posted on 04/14/2023 9:58:38 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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11 posted on 04/14/2023 9:59:56 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Which is produced from burning evil fossil fuels.

H also like to rapidly expand when heated.


12 posted on 04/14/2023 10:00:02 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I’ll reserve my applause until they can prove this is efficient energy. You can’t get more energy out than you put in without a natural potential energy source providing the difference.

My hunch is that the apparent hydrolysis process that this entails requires massive amounts of energy input. Just rearranging the furniture in the room, essentially.


13 posted on 04/14/2023 10:00:04 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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What is the ERoEI and where do you get the electricity?


14 posted on 04/14/2023 10:00:07 AM PDT by fretzer
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Also, the article doesn’t state how MUCH electricity is needed for the generation of h2.

Yes. I noticed that.

15 posted on 04/14/2023 10:00:40 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, LGBTQs, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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How much energy does it take to extract the hydrogen? A lot more than you get out of it I’ll bet. This is the achilles heel of most of these “alternatives”.

Hydrogen would be better than driving around with these lithium time bombs. The question is how to make it economical.


16 posted on 04/14/2023 10:01:04 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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When I read “hydrogen fueled cars”, I see an implicit argument for mass adoption of nuclear power plants. The hydrogen is just a mechanism for storing and transporting that power.


17 posted on 04/14/2023 10:01:48 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Perseverando
The new method extracts hydrogen from the ocean by ... using electricity.

And where does that electricity come from?

18 posted on 04/14/2023 10:02:02 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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“Where does the electricity come from? “

Directly from JF’nK and the EPA.


19 posted on 04/14/2023 10:02:04 AM PDT by Paladin2
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The electricity to energize this process will be generated by (wait for it)...

Fossil Fuels!


20 posted on 04/14/2023 10:02:21 AM PDT by Migraine
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