Posted on 06/05/2023 9:24:25 AM PDT by Boomer
All I am going to say is we are well beyond tin foil days.
Accidents do happen. This may be one. At this stage of the movie, it really doesn’t matter if it was an accident or an action, the perception will be it was an action.
God Help Us.
And I would like to take this time to state my family and I will not be attending ANY GOP candidate town hall, meeting, or event this year.
You and me both, FRiend.
A frequent donor to the NRA and Republican politicians and causes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv8YTzRakjQ
The REAL Truth About the Sonic Boom Over DC
Ward Carroll
Monthly refreshers in safety meetings involved inspecting, cleaning and verifying seals on your personal gear. I had not one but two sets of personal gear plus the office had one SCBA unit that hung on a wall in its protective bag.
Myself and the others could don, adjust and verify the seal on our heavy duty masks in something less than 10 seconds, have an emergency escape mask routinely carried in a belt pouch in use in less than 5 seconds and put a SCBA in action in about 20-30 seconds.
Production plants usually maintain the gas mask gear in a single safety cabinet where any person can grab a mask for emergency use or a work procedure. These are maintained by a safety department that sanitizes and inspects each mask after a single use. After this inspection and maintenance, each mask is bagged up in a ziplock and returned back to the safety cabinet.
I was only in a gas release a couple of times. Once was because of a screw up during maintenance when steam + HCl gas was vented to atmosphere. That sucked. Second time I was on the top of a cooling tower and a puff of chlorine gas happened along. My lungs froze and couldn't inhale. Pulled the escape respirator out of my belt pouch, crammed the mouth bit in my mouth then exhaled. Breathing restored and got the heck outta the location.
In the case of an aircraft such as a jet at 30-40k feet altitude, there are mere seconds for passengers and pilots to react. If you’re slow getting the oxygen supply mask on, you rapidly pass out. Give it a very few more minutes and the unconscious person is also flash frozen at -40 degrees F. The temperature goes from human comfortable to -40F in probably less than a minute so there's not a lot of time for the pilot to loose altitude to 10,000 ft so the ambiant air is for sure life supporting.
Did I understand it right that that there was one pilot and not two? If so, this is weird to me. I've never been on any corporate jet or turbo prop plane that flys greater than 10,000 feet to fly with one pilot. Always with two.
“A Citation is a big enough jet to (typically) require two pilots.”
With passengers it may be required to have two pilots, but there’s a pilot with a YouTube Channel called “CitationMax”, and he regularly flies that aircraft solo. With all the tech in the aircraft now, there must have been a warning if there were issues with the cabin pressure. Any pilot worth his salt would have descended below 18K feet where cabin pressure wouldn’t be an issue.
A couple of things are wrong with your post. The CE510 Citation series can be flown single pilot with appropriate type rating. The CE525 Citation seriescan also be flown single pilot with the appropriate type rating. The CE500 type rating covers about a dozen different versions of Citations, including the CE560 that was involved in this accident. It can be flown single pilot with additional training and an endorsement. However, when I renewed the insurance on my CE525 this year, the difference in premium was $100k for one pilot versus two pilots. It is our policy to use two pilots, so this was a no brainer. Second, in rapid decompression, you don oxygen masks. Then you make a descent, if terrain and weather allows.
“Planes can be digitally hijacked... just like cars.”
How do you digitally hijack an airplane?
You talk like an aviation professional or a Certified Flight Instructor.
Says the guy who identifies as bipolar. Can’t make this stuff up folks!
Bob, did you not see my screen name?
CFIIIMEIATP737 can be decoded as
Certificated Flight Instructor
Instrument Instructor
Multiengine Instructor
Airline Transport Pilot
B737 type rated
and I have several other jet type ratings.
So tell me how to digitally hijack an airplane.
Looks like ‘thefactor’ wasn’t the only one to totally miss the sarcastic tone of my reply.
Yes, sometimes in writing, it is easy to miss and since I’m not a professional writer, I probably could have done a better job.
So tell me how to digitally hijack an airplane.
I have no idea. You might ask the person who posted that nonsense. However I can tell you my dry humor sort of . . . fails at times.
“Wonder why the plane took off from Tenn?”
Although Banner Elk does have its own private airport, lots of people from NC use the Elizabethton airport.
I remember that one. I like “Viva La Vida” better.
Citation is certified for single-pilot operation.
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