Posted on 08/14/2023 7:48:42 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Why are some Republicans so dissatisfied with democracy?
Immediately after Ohio voters set an example for strong participation in direct democracy while soundly rejecting Issue 1, a measure clearly aimed at curtailing abortion, the authoritarian far right was deeply into the blame game. Issue 1’s supporters blamed “out-of-state dark money groups” and lack of time for their defeat. Ohio’s Republican secretary of state Frank LaRose called the vote “devastating.”
The sputtering was telling. Because this is what the Republican anti-reproductive freedom crowd claimed it wanted along: the chance to turn the question of abortion over to the states and let the people decide. Now, after the demise of Roe, that’s exactly what they’ve got. Except now that it’s not going their way, letting the people speak suddenly doesn’t seem to them like such a good idea.
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The slimey way they tried to changes the rules will hurt them in Ohio for a while.
Well, Lindsay Graham’s call for a national ban are just as self contradictory as calling for nationwide abortion on demand policy.
That’s the way the ball bounces then. It should have been left up to the states from the beginning. Sad that so many want to keep such a horrible act legal, though.
The only constitutional argument I can see for a federal ban on abortion is the baby body parts industry being interstate commerce.
Stupid inference. The Ohio vote had nothing to with abortion.
Because a lot of them had ‘something’ happen in college or remember their HS friend that got knocked up at 17 and now keeps her trailer as together as a single mom with no skills, education, or successful man can -—
And they are just not willing to make certain that Thou Shalt Not becomes the legal standard, but really willing to make sure ‘the women that NEED to, can...’
Focusing on “states’ rights” is still the best, and only, option
Relying on the power and force of the central state to push social policies IS what the Left is all about.
Destroying Christian morality and replacing it with post-modern, political ideology has been a 90 year project (at least) of the Regressive Left. Change will not happen overnight. Remember too that God was going to spare the whole of Sodom and Gomorrah for just 10 righteous men.
You cannot legislate morality.
Yes, I would like abortion to be banned everywhere. But political matters involving laws need to be decided by People.
I always thought the plan was to return Abortion to the states. We have done that. Massachusetts and Oklahoma are probably going to approach the matter differently. For me, that is the whole idea of our federated union of the several states.
I think the GOP makes a serious error if it now pushes for one national approach to abortion or rejects a state-level decision on the matter.
Now, after the demise of Roe, that’s exactly what they’ve got. Except now that it’s not going their way, letting the people speak suddenly doesn’t seem to them like such a good idea.
I challenged many here after the court ruling what we were going to do now. But I was called an abortion supporter for asking that question.
Folks we are in a long term battle, there are no magic bullet.
The battle is one on one, not through passing more laws.
I support the battle being on the state front as designed by our Founding Fathers FOR A REASON.
Do a small thing in the battle, encourage a local warrior in the fight financially and in other ways, even use your voice.
Kinda' makes one tear up (sniff).
Fixed. I cannot comprehend how women can care so little about life, one that they help created, one they can feel growing inside themselves, that they will have their innocent baby dismembered, sucked out of them, and brutally murdered.
They call that healthcare.
It is pure evil. Repeal the 19th.
Strictly speaking, no. But it’s placement on the August ballot was. Prolife conservatives knew a ballot initiative was brewing to reverse the current restrictive Ohio law to something more open. Results from other states ballot initiatives as well as statewide polling showed that support for a more pro choice position was in the mid 50’s. The strategy was to get the 60% bar in place in order to likely stop the likely November less restrictive constitutional amendment. As LaRose said, the August ballot initiative was 100% about abortion.
It’s up to the states now which is the way it should be. Hate to see abortions continue but if the voters have spoken, so be it. Problem is, I dont trust elections.
good post. Do something pro life EVERY DAY. And in the post - roe world, where the political subdivision is again teh state, perhaps what you do will even have a legal effect.
but ultimately, being pro life, is not about legalities. it is about...well....being pro life and spreading that as deep and as far and as wide as you can. :)
I don’t think that it is so much a love of abortion as it is a rebellion against government restriction of free will. These mind numbed suburbanites oppose government restrictions on everything, except legal gun possession. They want legal drugs, legal shop lifting, legalized child grooming, open borders… and .legal abortion.
Most conservatives do not want full abortion bans. In fact, many support legal abortion in the thinking it will reduce the number of welfare babies.
Out of state money in elections should be banned in the Constitution. It defies the concept of a representative government.
it should be a states right issue, if a majority want it, then they want it. That’s how the Reps should play it.
I don’t agree.
Those who are concerned with the Constitution and Freedom must be happy that the rights were returned to the States.
States can make decisions about abortion, gambling, marijuana, drugs, abortion, prostitution. People within the states need to live with the consequences. NOTE: murder, body part sales, unemployment, crime, tent cities, drug deaths, ect.
It’s your state, your government, you make the choices.
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