Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

China's economic crisis is real and it's spectacular
Hotair ^ | 08/25/2023 | John Sexton

Posted on 08/25/2023 5:43:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I admit to being a bit obsessed with this story and I’ll also admit the reason is largely schadenfreude. I’m enjoying seeing China’s arrogant nationalists, the communist apparatchiks who believe the party knows what’s best for everyone getting humbled by the simplest of problems: economic reality. After seizing the freedom of millions of people in Hong Kong and threatening to do the same to Taiwan, China suddenly finds itself facing a severe crisis of confidence.

For much of the past four decades, China’s economy seemed like an unstoppable force, the engine behind the country’s rise to a global superpower. But the economy is now plagued by a series of crises. A real estate crisis born from years of overbuilding and excessive borrowing is running alongside a larger debt crisis, while young people are struggling with record joblessness. And amid the drip feed of bad economic news, a new crisis is emerging: a crisis of confidence.

A growing lack of faith in the future of the Chinese economy is verging on despair. Consumers are holding back on spending. Businesses are reluctant to invest and create jobs. And would-be entrepreneurs are not starting new businesses.

“Low confidence is a major issue in the Chinese economy now,” said Larry Hu, chief China economist for Macquarie Group, an Australian financial services firm…

In the past few weeks, investors have pulled more than $10 billion out of China’s stock markets. On Thursday, China’s top securities regulator summoned executives at the country’s national pension funds, top banks and insurers to pressure them to invest more in Chinese stocks, according to Caixin, an economics magazine.

Things are bad and China’s response has been to stop publishing the bad data. They stopped publishing youth unemployment data this month and stopped publishing consumer confidence data earlier this summer. But the cover-up isn’t working this time.

The real bright spot in this current crisis is that the blame falls on the person making all of the decisions: Xi Jinping.

The Chinese Communist Party’s legitimacy still relies heavily on ordinary Chinese feeling their lives are improving, and Xi knows that, said Ling Chen, an assistant professor at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.

“So far nobody can challenge him politically. But economic performance is always the very core of the regime’s legitimacy and that affects how well he can govern the country,” Chen said.

Now Xi has replaced promises of material wealth with demands for political loyalty, and told young people to suck it up and “eat bitterness” for the good of the nation…

“That is an Achilles’ heel politically for Xi,” [former CIA officer Randall] Phillips said, because Xi has ultimate responsibility for China’s economic predicament — and coming up with the solution.

During the 2008 financial crisis, China’s solution was to goose the economy with more stimulus spending. That worked in the short run but also created a lot of debt. Xi could try that again but unsustainable debt creates its own problems. He also can’t rely on foreign investment given that he seems to be cracking down on information gathering by foreign companies. These look like mistakes but maybe they are just a shift in China’s goals.

Why does the government keep making mistakes? One reason is that short-term growth is no longer the priority of the Chinese Communist Party (ccp). The signs are that Mr Xi believes China must prepare for sustained economic and, potentially, military conflict with America. Today, therefore, he emphasises China’s pursuit of national greatness, security and resilience…

The fact that China’s problems start at the top means they will persist. They may even worsen, as clumsy policymakers confront the economy’s mounting challenges. The population is ageing rapidly. America is increasingly hostile, and is trying to choke the parts of China’s economy, like chipmaking, that it sees as strategically significant. The more China catches up with America, the harder the gap will be to close further, because centralised economies are better at emulation than at innovation.

There’s a good chance China is facing a demographic crisis with an aging and also a shrinking population. The one child policy is no longer in place but we’re beginning to feel its effects.

The real question is how long young people in China will continue to settle for a one-party authoritarian government as it becomes clear that the government can’t deliver a better future. How long before another Tiananmen-style uprising?



TOPICS: Business/Economy; China; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blowingsunshine; cap; ccp; china; chinaeconomy; crisis; economy; larryhu; macquariegroup; randallphillips; xi
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

1 posted on 08/25/2023 5:43:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 08/25/2023 5:44:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

How long before another Tiananmen-style uprising?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48445934

In 1989 Beijing’s Tiananmen Square became the focus for large-scale protests, which were crushed by China’s Communist rulers.


3 posted on 08/25/2023 5:47:14 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

A billion angry and frustrated Chinamen. What could go wrong?

Gonna be awesome.


4 posted on 08/25/2023 5:49:26 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DIRTYSECRET

RE: A billion angry and frustrated Chinamen. What could go wrong?

1) Hope they don’t vent it on the evil west ( led by the United States ).

2) The danger is the CCP will deflect the problem away from themselves and channel the anger towards national pride — the reunification with Taiwan.


5 posted on 08/25/2023 5:53:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Economic crisis? No problem. Just print more money.


6 posted on 08/25/2023 5:54:39 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Stop. I’ll have to watch those episodes on Netflix now.


7 posted on 08/25/2023 5:54:56 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Good point.

That was supposedly one of the keys to Hitler’s rise to power. The humiliation of WWI’s punishment to Germany made them ripe for a villain and a hero to regain their pride.

I was told my a Chinese woman (Christian, anti-communist) that the Chinese children are no longer taught daily to hate America. I never believed her but she insisted.


8 posted on 08/25/2023 5:57:17 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
America is increasingly hostile ..

Got down to that part and thought wth?
All we've been seeing is the DC whores selling us out with their filthy hands out for more and more and more graft at the expense of what's left of our nation.

9 posted on 08/25/2023 5:57:27 PM PDT by tomkat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

Heard from a Chinese woman there were “thousands” of dissidents to disappeared after the tank defiance incident.
Never verified by the Western press but she said everyone in China knew it was true. She said the guy who stood there was “a fool.”


10 posted on 08/25/2023 5:59:46 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


11 posted on 08/25/2023 6:01:00 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The Chinese Communist Party’s legitimacy still relies heavily on ordinary Chinese feeling their lives are improving,


just like the rats.


12 posted on 08/25/2023 6:01:07 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like they are going to need a new Covid strain to keep the people in line.


13 posted on 08/25/2023 6:05:04 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

And things were improving until Emperor Xi took over. His predecessor Hu Xintao was content to make China rich, fat, and happy. But, Xi is a true believer and wants to follow in the steps of their mass-murderer founder Mao.


14 posted on 08/25/2023 6:07:55 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: DIRTYSECRET

They will start a war with Taiwan and use the surplus people for cannon fonder.


15 posted on 08/25/2023 6:09:09 PM PDT by oldasrocks (uit )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

...yet the globalists force the taxpayers in the United States to borrow money from Communist China.


16 posted on 08/25/2023 6:10:56 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

They’ll vent it on Japan. The CCP has been ginning up a lot of anti-Japanese propaganda since Xi took over. Plus, it’s a closer target.


17 posted on 08/25/2023 6:11:54 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: oldasrocks
You are right... All cultures eventually end up with too many men. War has traditionally been used to alleviate that.

Where the author gets it wrong is there will not be a war between China and Taiwan, because they are brothers... And they are too weak to fight anyone else. China's only choice on the menu is revolution.

18 posted on 08/25/2023 6:33:08 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

China has empty apartments.

The US has streets lined with tents.


19 posted on 08/25/2023 6:52:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

#1 I have seen em. They are not spectacular..... :(


20 posted on 08/25/2023 8:01:36 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson