Posted on 09/14/2023 9:53:06 PM PDT by Reno89519
Trump [has] refused to endorse a federal ban on abortion, allowing some top rivals to get to the right of him on an issue that animates many conservative activists.
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That tension underscores the new reality the GOP finds itself in more than a year into the post-Roe era. While top Republicans were long able to simply declare themselves opposed to abortion, they must now contend with more complicated questions — including when access should be banned and whether uniform standards might apply across the U.S., even in states where support for abortion rights runs deep.
“There’s a wide variety of opinion. Should there be a national ban? At how many weeks? Should it be entirely left to the states?” said Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition and a Republican National Committee member.
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The dynamic will be on fresh display in the coming days ... Trump is joining a crowded slate of candidates speaking Friday in Washington at an event for the Family Research Council, and is headlining the Concerned Women for America's Leadership Summit dinner. But he’s skipping Scheffler's Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition banquet on Saturday in Des Moines, where five other candidates will address evangelical Christians ...
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Pence ... has declared that every Republican running for president should endorse, at a minimum, a federal abortion ban 15 weeks into pregnancy.
... Scott ... concurs with Pence. He recently criticized ... Haley, who says Republicans should look for bipartisan consensus on abortion...
DeSantis ... [says] his state recently passed a ban on abortion after six weeks of pregnancy.
Trump maintains that even some anti-abortion activists believe the six-week ban — before many women even know they’re pregnant — is too harsh.
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Personally, heartbeat, plus qualified exception for life of the mother.
It’s a State issue, period. End of discussion.
Trump [has] refused to endorse a federal ban on abortion, allowing some top rivals to get to the right of him …Being against states rights is not “to the right of” Trump on this issue.
Indeed, "states rights" was what everyone was clamoring for for 45 years.
Last year Roe v Wade was overturned. It took almost half a century to get to that place, to where it should have been all along: back to the individual states.
It is now up to the people of those states to determine what they will do about abortion-related policy.
That might more than frustrate many pro-life activists, but it was to be expected if Roe was overturned.
The battle is won. But the war to change hearts and minds has escalated.
From an election standpoint, a consensus view for Republicans, maybe 'it is a state issue' works if it can be erased from federal law and funding entirely.
Candidates and the party do need to figure this out before they get dragged to defeat by Democrats (once again) on this single topic.
Leave the fraud denial alone.
It’s a State issue, period. End of discussion. |
Roe v. Wade, and the reversal by SCOTUS of that decision begs to disagree.
Continue discussing.
Indeed, "states rights" was what everyone was clamoring for for 45 years.
And which states exactly were directly responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade?
It's a shame Trump is on the wrong side of this fundamentally conservative issue.
The leftist rammed through an illegal National abortion law through the courts, that eventually was repealed. Now some low IQ poster says Trump won’t sign a National bill banning abortion. The federal government must stay out of it. Abortion was never ratified by all the states.
So, no federal law banning or legalizing, no federal funds, no tax benefits, excise it from federal laws and regulations entirely? Say I agree with you, do you think it can be done or will that be the battle for the next 45 years?
>> It’s a State issue, period. End of discussion.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THAT. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does anyone know what the proper conservative position on abortion is?
Some conservatives say that since abortion is murder , we should have a National Abortion ban.
Other conservatives take the 10th Amendment approach, and say it should strictly be a state issue. Those conservatives say that, even if we oppose abortion , we have to recognize that some states will have liberalized abortion laws.
Some conservatives say we should not work for more restrictive abortion laws in any state, because even some more moderate or conservative voters oppose abortion restrictions. Then they won’t vote for conservative candidates, and then conservative candidates will not be elected to office to work on other conservative issues besides abortion.
So considering some of these issues, I find it hard to understand what exactly is the proper conservative position on abortion.
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Your point, if you have one, is vacuous.
The FEDERAL law needed to be overturned so that the issue could be returned to the STATES. And that’s exactly what President Trump’s appointed SC judges did.
You’ll pick up any rock, any stick, to use as a cudgel against President Trump, won’t you. No matter how lame or how illogical. You hate him that much. Disgusting for a supposed conservative to behave that way.
Nor should he. It’s a state issue, unless someone can find a specific reference to abortions in the Constitution. The legislature had decades in which to codify abortion, but they chose not to do so.
The problem with the qualified exception, is that there are dishonest doctors willing to claim that the mother may face problems unless she is allowed to abort.
That’s what Dobbs was all about. Not sure why Trymp or anyone would go backwards abd endorse a National ban.
If it were up to me, it would be banned, period. Unless the mothers life was in danger. But its a state right
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