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How U.S. Provoked Russia Over Ukraine
laprogressive.com ^ | 3/28/22 | LAP

Posted on 01/22/2024 8:22:40 AM PST by JonPreston

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To: SaveFerris
--- "That picture looks like Russian Collusion!!"

Isn't it interesting how the "narrative" is twisted to conform to the theme of the moment?

While I prefer commenting / responding to others using one or more hotlinks to allow verification of a source, this picture says a great deal about the "narrative" and "fundamental transformation" and "flexibility."

If one recalls the Obama administration and its color revolutions was one of fundamental transformations of governments not our own. So much for "democracy" from Democrats.

81 posted on 01/22/2024 12:50:49 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: pierrem15

So, what you are saying is that ALL AROUND THE WORLD, it always boils down to MONEY and POWER.


82 posted on 01/22/2024 1:00:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370)
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To: JonPreston

>> NATO:

None of those involved NATO forces invading a country. There was no invasion, no conflict.

As always, every country that has joined NATO has asked to join NATO.

Finland joining NATO was not an act of aggression against Finland in any sense of the word.

That Russia perceived it as an act of aggression against Russia is irrelevant, and says more about Russian paranoia than it does about NATO. And is exactly why Finland, Hungary, et al., felt it necessary to seek NATO membership.


83 posted on 01/22/2024 1:53:59 PM PST by jdege
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To: JonPreston

84 posted on 01/22/2024 2:40:00 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: JonPreston
it wasn't an invasion; it was the liberation of ethnic Russian territories, as witness to the elections in Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk.

Still repeating this lie. All these territories have Ukrainian majorities, Zaporizhzhia an Kherson by a substantial amount.


85 posted on 01/22/2024 3:03:20 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: jdege
None of these countries involved NATO forces invading a countey

Why use troops when they can bomb the crap out of them?

NATO bombings include:

20th century[edit]

21st century[edit]

Add Ukraine to this list.


86 posted on 01/22/2024 3:06:25 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Petrosius

cite your source and explain why the people in each territory voted in excess of 90% to leave Ukraine.


87 posted on 01/22/2024 3:08:20 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

88 posted on 01/22/2024 3:08:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: JonPreston
"How U.S. Provoked Russia Over Ukraine"

Evil America, Nazi CIA globohomo bio labs ! Slava Putinescu !!!1


89 posted on 01/22/2024 3:19:49 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

90 posted on 01/22/2024 3:24:00 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Erik Latranyi

Shades of April Glaspie and Saddam Hussein.


91 posted on 01/22/2024 3:29:14 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: ZULU

Lol.


92 posted on 01/22/2024 3:31:52 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: JoSixChip

“Where do you morons come from? It would have never happened under Trump. Russia is not a threat to us, they are only a threat to corruption in the US and nato.”

Chugging down them Bud Lites again Jo?

Daily hacking attacks against our power grid and other critical infrastructure and they’re not a threat?

Daily hacking and ransomware attacks against our healthcare, financial and manufacturing systems and they’re not a threat?

Developing first strike nuclear weapons in violation of the START treaties and they’re not a threat?

Development of intermediate range nuclear weapons in violation of the INF treaty and they’re not a threat?

Their alliance with Iran and they’re not a threat?

You seriously need some help dealing with that alcohol induced psychosis.


93 posted on 01/22/2024 5:26:51 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

“You seriously need some help dealing with that alcohol induced psychosis.”

I’m thinking it’s not a psychosis, but a plan, paid for by the Russians. There are several others here on FR that are suspicious in their support of the expansionist Russian program.

They claim that freedom is a threat to Russia, when Russia smashes its neighbors. I think that they are afraid of Russia shrinking to its natural ethnic borders, instead of the imperial borders.


94 posted on 01/22/2024 9:14:35 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: Leaning Right

Russia isn’t part of the West. There were periods in their history where Russia reached out to the West. Peter the Great. Then Boris Yeltsin. But for most part of their history, they want nothing to do with the West.


95 posted on 01/22/2024 9:27:16 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: JonPreston
cite your source

The 2001 Ukrainian census. Do you dispute these numbers? If so, what is your source? I am sorry if the facts do not match the Kremlin propaganda.

explain why the people in each territory voted in excess of 90% to leave Ukraine.

Are you really going to try to defend the legitimacy of those so-called referenda? There was no public debate, no rallies of the two sides of the question. They were conducted under military occupation and the counting was done by Russian personnel without any opposition observers. Additionally, the Russians did not hold the entirety of any of the oblasts. In particular, they did not even hold the major city of Zaporizhzhia. The claimed results are also risible and only to be seen in the Soviet Union and North Korea.

96 posted on 01/23/2024 9:25:32 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Are you really going to try to defend the legitimacy of those so-called referenda?

Please provide concrete evidence to the contrary.

97 posted on 01/23/2024 9:33:03 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston
Please provide concrete evidence to the contrary.

I just did.

98 posted on 01/23/2024 9:40:50 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Sorry, that’s insufficient


99 posted on 01/23/2024 10:06:29 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: MinorityRepublican

“they want nothing to do with the West.”

Yeah, except when it comes to cars, planes, electronics, movies, music, fashion, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.


100 posted on 01/23/2024 1:22:19 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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