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'Wolf of Wall Street' says college a 'complete waste of time' for most students: 'Avoid it like the plague'
Fox News ^ | February 20, 2024 | Kristine Parks

Posted on 02/21/2024 12:35:22 PM PST by george76

New analysis finds 1 in 4 students in college programs earn less than high school graduates, ten years after enrollment

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Famed former Wall Street broker Jordan Belfort commented on the diminishing value of a college education, after a new report found some college students learned less than high school graduates a decade after their enrollment.

College is a "complete waste of time" for most students, ...

"If you want to be a professional, a doctor, a lawyer, an accountant or something that really requires a degree then yes, you should go to college

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"But all of these other sort of softer subjects like gender studies and all this other stuff, what are you going to do with that stuff, honestly? So I think it’s a complete waste of time," ..

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Aside from the financial impact, Belfort said he couldn't even recommend that students attend for the social experience anymore, as college campuses have increasingly become hotbeds for far-left social agendas.

"So, unless you need it for your career, you want to be a professional, I'd avoid it like the plague," .

A new analysis from the HEA Group found that 1 in 4 students in higher education programs are earning less than the median annual income of $32,000 for high school graduates,

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So many people I know are just overwhelmed and confused by anything about finance, banking, money management, but if you learn it at a very young age, along with your arithmetic tables, I think you'd be a lot better off," Belfort continued.

"The Wolf of Investing" author said financial literacy principles and subjects could be built upon as students get older so that by the time they are adults, managing their finances becomes "second nature."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxbusiness.com ...


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KEYWORDS: college; collegedegree; collegeeducation; degree; education; highschool; students; workforce
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1 posted on 02/21/2024 12:35:22 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

NOW, you tell me!


2 posted on 02/21/2024 12:43:20 PM PST by lee martell
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I’ve been arguing for years that the guaranteed student loans should be guaranteed by the educational institution themselves. They would be incentivized to keep prices lower and give degrees that may lead to actual knowledge and skills. Instead, they charge six figures for useless degrees and have the taxpayers on the hook while they raked in the money.


3 posted on 02/21/2024 12:46:17 PM PST by Armando Guerra
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But they get to wear a t-shirt that reads: I’m Glad I Are a College Student.”


4 posted on 02/21/2024 12:46:19 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: george76

But what will the woke do?!


5 posted on 02/21/2024 12:47:17 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Get the government out of student loan business and let the colleges deal with it. They’d have to charge less and offer real degrees since they’ll be on the hook on getting paid back.


6 posted on 02/21/2024 12:47:47 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: george76

Yes, for professionals, University is still the gatekeeper. I don’t know, maybe you can take the bar exam with out a degree, but I doubt you could ever be licensed as a doctor without one.

There is also a caveat for personality.
Some people are self starters/motivators, and they can learn better and faster without having to sit in a lecture hall and a lab several times per week.

Other people need the structure.

I’d rather hire the self motivator, personally, but I guess there’s a place for everyone.


7 posted on 02/21/2024 12:48:23 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Ah, Jordan Belfort. Exactly the sort of person we should be listening to when it comes to how to order society.


8 posted on 02/21/2024 12:50:06 PM PST by babble-on
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One used to be able to read for the bar. and study under a lawyer and in a firm

Same for medicine


9 posted on 02/21/2024 12:50:08 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: george76
Education is mostly wasted on the young. Now that I'm in my 60s, I love to learn and I'm always reading literature, history, and what not. Back when I was young, I just wanted to ditch my books and get to the next party.

I agree that some professions, like medicine and law, need some university time, but by and large, the workplace (and the real world) is the best place to learn.

Bring back apprenticeships for the trades!

10 posted on 02/21/2024 12:53:10 PM PST by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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Colleges Now a Breeding Ground for Mediocrity

https://www.newsweek.com/colleges-are-now-breeding-ground-mediocrity-not-meritocracy-opinion-1751997


11 posted on 02/21/2024 12:53:49 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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I think the optimal path is part-time, while you are building a career....obviously focusing on the educational needs that will make you better, but not taking time off from working to do so....

there’s still value for a person in business to for example learn accounting....and it’s super valuable after/during you actually working in business - it all just makes sense

but the point being: the default position of devoting 4 years when you are young and able to work to college is wasteful


12 posted on 02/21/2024 12:54:47 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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You are absolutely right. A liberal arts degree from Hillsdale College is still worth something. Anywhere else? Not so much.

Why do you suppose that is?

13 posted on 02/21/2024 12:57:02 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: george76

What? The degree in vaginomics didn’t pan out?


14 posted on 02/21/2024 12:59:21 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: Regulator

That means their evil ideology will die, thankfully.


15 posted on 02/21/2024 1:01:22 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: escapefromboston

That’s a good idea.


16 posted on 02/21/2024 1:01:39 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Armando Guerra

Excellent suggestion on how to handle this issue, nationally.


17 posted on 02/21/2024 1:03:28 PM PST by Grampa Dave (“Surrender means wisely accommodating ourselves to what is beyofnd our control.” — Sylvia Boorstein.)
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18 posted on 02/21/2024 1:03:28 PM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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A lot of college majors are a waste of time and money. And many colleges are way overpriced. But there are good reasons for kids going to college if they have defined goals and a plan to achieve them. You have to go to college to be a doctor or lawyer. Or to work in certain financial professions. But going to college and majoring in some liberal arts course with no plan, aim or goals is a recipe for disaster.


19 posted on 02/21/2024 1:04:08 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Yes, the part-time, as needed, approach makes the most sense. People often go to college just to get the credential, and not to learn anything in particular. They go because they have been told to go, and so it ends up being a very costly waste of time (besides being brainwashed with leftist propaganda). Get into the workplace after high-school and see what you are good at and enjoy. Then maybe take courses part-time, as needed, to enhance your career. The student then will be more mature, motivated and selective in taking any needed courses.


20 posted on 02/21/2024 1:05:01 PM PST by DeweyCA ( )
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