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Enough is Enough: An Open Letter to the President of the United States
Arutz Sheva ^ | 4/19/2002 | Rabbi Eliezer Waldman

Posted on 04/19/2002 4:57:04 PM PDT by anotherview

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To: RickyJ
Real Christians don't persecute or hate anyone

I agree with you on this but I think the article is interesting and makes a few good points. I can certainly understand this author's frustration Israel is under.

I find the opening and closing sentences contradict each other. Israel allows us to bless them with our resources and support but then wishes us to stay completely out of their affairs. The world of politics just doesn't work like that.

21 posted on 04/19/2002 8:13:38 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: anotherview
The thing that has always impressed me the most about the people of Israel is how they walked into a desert and within years produced a garden. Their love and passion for their land is reflected in the way the land has responded to them. How can anyone possibly doubt that God intended for the Jews to inhabit this part of the earth?
22 posted on 04/19/2002 8:14:38 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: TopQuark
"And in the name of Judaism, people, including Christians, have been persecuted."

Where? When? By whom?

Have you been hiding in the bathroom reading Goebels again?

No. I've been reading the Bible. (duh)
The Jewish Pharisees hounded and persecuted Christians...even had them stoned to death.
And as I said, this was done in the name of Judaism.

23 posted on 04/19/2002 8:16:33 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: straight on red
Gee, I'm a taxpayer too and I don't mind a bit that my tax money is going to support the only democracy in the mid-east.
24 posted on 04/19/2002 8:16:50 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: straight on red
If you want yo keep getting the Billions from American Christian tax payers, Who on earth are you to make all American taxpayers Christian, bigot? I would rather prefer that they were all G-d-loving people, but the truth of the matter is that many of them are atheist leftists. Most certainly I, a Jew, pay my fair share of taxes as well.

you do what we say. Got it? Do you tell that to the Europeans, too? We have spent incomparably greater amounts on the defense of Europe that any foreign aid to Israel and Egypt. Despite the end of the Cold War, we still spend more on defense than any of the European nations.

All this was after the Marshall Plan, which rebuilt Europe. Have you demanded that they, too, "do what wer say?"

Aaah, you apply to Jews different rules.

Now run along and tell your flock that Jesus was not the Messiah. This is how you speak to a man of the cloth?

What would you do if someone spoke like that to a minister of priest?

So much hatred in you, all while thinking of yourself as a Christian.

25 posted on 04/19/2002 8:18:59 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Jorge
The Jewish Pharisees hounded and persecuted Christians...even had them stoned to death. There were no Christians before Christ died.

Don't just read the Bible, Jorge, talk to someone. You clearly need help in this class.

26 posted on 04/19/2002 8:20:45 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Rightwing Canuck
I know! And I as a proud,Roman Catholic am getting sick and tired of this slander of a great pope! The pope does not have an army.What more,in heavens name could Pius X11 do?!He hid,I don't know how many Jews in the Vatican,had forgeries made and got many of them out of Italy.
27 posted on 04/19/2002 8:21:10 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: Jorge
Hitler drew his ideology from Christian sources and sought the advice of the Mufti Husseini of Jerusalem, who eagerly became Hitler´s partner in planning the "final solution" for the Jews.

Hitler didn't draw his ideology from Christian sources, as much as he distorted Christian ideology for his own evil and non-Christian purposes. There is a big difference.

I agree with you, it's a common misconception. Hitler was an occultist, but I believe he exploited passages in the bible in order to further his hatred of the Jews and to give himself and excuse to implement his "final solution".

None-the-less, Christian nations stood by and allowed it to happen. That is a stain we all will carry on our souls.....Never Again!

28 posted on 04/19/2002 8:22:14 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: TopQuark
"The Jewish Pharisees hounded and persecuted Christians...even had them stoned to death."

There were no Christians before Christ died.

Who's talking about "before Christ died?"
The Jews persecuted the Christians AFTER Christ died.

Paul was one of them. He was a Jewish Pharisee ( at the time he was named Saul) involved in the stoning of Stephen...the persecution and arrest of many other and was on his way to hunt down more Christians when he was converted.

Topquack;Don't just read the Bible, Jorge, talk to someone. You clearly need help in this class.

You obviously think you can compensate for your lack of knowledge, by posting juvenile insults.

The Bible says exactly what I claim it says and I can back it up with scriptural references.
Read and learn.

29 posted on 04/19/2002 8:32:32 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: McGavin999
Hitler was an occultist, but I believe he exploited passages in the bible in order to further his hatred of the Jews and to give himself and excuse to implement his "final solution".

Exactly.

30 posted on 04/19/2002 8:42:30 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
The Jews persecuted the Christians AFTER Christ died.

Actually I don't think there were any real Christians until after Jesus arose from the dead and showed himself to many. These people who saw him and believed he was the Son of God were the first Christians.

The Jews has no reason to persecute Christians until they boldly started proclaiming the good news of Jesus Christ to a lost world after Jesus arose from the grave. Before he arose from the grave all abandoned him.

31 posted on 04/19/2002 8:47:30 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: RickyJ
"The Jews persecuted the Christians AFTER Christ died."

Actually I don't think there were any real Christians until after Jesus arose from the dead and showed himself to many.

Are you saying the disciples of Christ were not "real Christians?"

The fact is Jesus told people who believed on Him that they were saved BEFORE He died.
Those who believed in Jesus Christ were true Christians.

The Jews has no reason to persecute Christians until they boldly started proclaiming the good news of Jesus Christ to a lost world after Jesus arose from the grave. Before he arose from the grave all abandoned him.

Nevertheless, the Jews persecuted Jesus and His followers before He died.
And they persecuted His followers after He died and rose from the dead as well.

32 posted on 04/19/2002 9:00:21 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: anotherview
Bump for this letter--
33 posted on 04/19/2002 9:45:35 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: Rightwing Canuck
Bit hard when Vatican records between 1923 and 45 are not available
34 posted on 04/19/2002 9:48:48 PM PDT by Governor StrangeReno
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To: Boxsford
Thank you so much for the heads up!!!
35 posted on 04/19/2002 10:34:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Not so hard when you consider the Church helped save 800,000 Jews.
36 posted on 04/19/2002 10:47:22 PM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: anotherview
Actually, yes some do. A recent Rome newspaper showed a picture of a baby Jesus in the manger surrounded by Israeli tanks asking "Do they mean to kill me again?"

Was this a Christian newspaper?

37 posted on 04/19/2002 11:23:53 PM PDT by niki
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To: anotherview
United States Rabbi Eliezer Waldman:

Jews were always expose to both physical destruction and religious persecution by both the Christian crusades and the Islamic Jihad...[and] Hitler drew his ideology from Christian sources...[who] eagerly became Hitler's partner in planning the "final solution" for the Jews.

Rabbi Waldman is a pompous, bigot who would rather pronounce a sweeping indictment of millions of Christians through lies and distortions that ironically would make Dr. Goebbels proud.

38 posted on 04/19/2002 11:40:35 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: anotherview
I sent him the same message, but more concise. No more $ to the Republican party until GW stops treating the Israelis as moral equivalent bad guys in this. They've been repeatedly attacked over the years by the Arabs, and have established settlements as protective buffer zones. They'd like nothing more than to be LEFT ALONE. Imperative: Recto-cranial extraction for GW. He's getting extremely BAD advice. Probably from the Colon.
39 posted on 04/20/2002 12:06:51 AM PDT by Robear
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To: anotherview
Without Christian support for Israel through the many years Israel would likely be no more. That is the plain simple truth.

Talk about bite the hand the feeds…

The US takes a lot of heat from the world due to our support of Israel. That heat, our money and resourced given to Israel give us some say.

40 posted on 04/20/2002 3:38:32 AM PDT by DB
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