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Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/13/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

  1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
  2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
  3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
  4. Official chapter announcements
Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

  1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
  2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
  3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)


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To: robertpaulsen; Admin Moderator
"what is a WoD?" A noble effort, undertaken and supported by those of us who desire a safe, sane, and drug-free America.

Hoooo booooy, better move this thread to the Smokey Back Room real quick.

Legalize it and tax the hell out of it. Continuing to keep drugs illegal will not create a safe, sane America. My dad was old enough to remember when Coca Cola had the dreaded cocaine additive. I think America was a lot safer and saner back then.

41 posted on 02/13/2003 6:42:35 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (my bad?)
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To: Admin Moderator
"Now, on to the WoD flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop."

Amen.

42 posted on 02/13/2003 6:42:35 AM PST by RabidBartender (Hi!)
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To: Admin Moderator
This should've been in Breaking News.... ;-)
43 posted on 02/13/2003 6:42:48 AM PST by b4its2late (STOP ANIMAL EXPERIMENTS. Use lawyers.)
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To: Admin Moderator; dighton; aculeus; general_re; Poohbah; L,TOWM
"...take it to the backroom..."


If you two are going to play rough ...


... I said, "Take it to the back room!"

45 posted on 02/13/2003 6:44:39 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Where in Podunk is the car chaase? Does it involve hostages? Will some hysterical FReeper post a "FREEP THIS POLL" concerning the chaase? Will you keep up posted?
46 posted on 02/13/2003 6:44:49 AM PST by ofMagog ( We are all tap dancing in the canoe of life.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"You could also argue your point in a civil manner using logic and persuasion instead of name calling and bitter responses. "

But name calling and bitter responses is the only tools that drug warriors can come up with, since they are way short on evidence. To deny them the use of such would be to silence them.

47 posted on 02/13/2003 6:46:16 AM PST by Kerberos
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To: Admin Moderator
Dave
(Knocking)
Who is it?
It's me Dave, open up, I got the stuff.
(Long Pause.Knocking.)
Who is it.
It's me Dave, man, open up I got the stuff.
Who??
It's Dave, man, open up, I think the cops saw me come in here.
(Pause.Knocking.)
Who is it?
(Getting A Little Mad) It's, it's Dave, man, will you open up I got the stuff with me.
Who?!
DAVE!! Man, open up!
Dave??
Yeah, Dave! Come on man open up!I think the cops saw me-
Dave's Not Here!!
Frantically Knocking.) Open Up The Door It's Dave!!!
WHO?!
DAVE!!D-A-V-E!!!!! WILL YOU OPEN UP THE [blank] DOOR!!!
DAVE??
YEAH DAVE!!
DAVE??!!
Right man, Dave. Now will you open up the door??
(Pause)
DAVE'S NOT HERE!!
48 posted on 02/13/2003 6:46:56 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Being clever?
49 posted on 02/13/2003 6:47:35 AM PST by robertpaulsen (Now, do I give him the a$$ or the crotch?)
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To: ofMagog
Only if it's series... If it's Hugh, of course I'll keep up posted... :0)
50 posted on 02/13/2003 6:47:51 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: ofMagog
Does this include the zodiac races in San Francisco Harbor?
51 posted on 02/13/2003 6:48:22 AM PST by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: Admin Moderator
[heavy french accent]"Go away or I shall taunt you again!" (from Monty Python and the Holy Grail) :^)

Someone ought to get a video capture from that scene and use it on flame threads or zots...

52 posted on 02/13/2003 6:49:38 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: AppyPappy
Then the Goofs appear, demanding more drug laws as a way to prod the LCL's to watch them catch fire and swing harder.

You forgot the best part: then one of the Drug Warriors bangs abuse for a "flame war" and gets the thread relegated to the Smokey Backroom, where no one will see it, which of course was their goal all along. That's what lead to the AM's decision this AM.

53 posted on 02/13/2003 6:49:45 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: robertpaulsen
Flame Bait!
54 posted on 02/13/2003 6:51:09 AM PST by jayef
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Usually, it's the goofs causing the trouble. The LCL's are content to "tsk, tsk" with each other and knit strawmen all day. The Goofs go in to start a brawl.
55 posted on 02/13/2003 6:53:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Kerberos
Play nice on the main board. Play dirty in the Smokey Backroom.
56 posted on 02/13/2003 6:54:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: AppyPappy
No, no. CWOJackson all but copped to the strategy the other day. You must've missed that.
57 posted on 02/13/2003 6:55:53 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Admin Moderator
The WoD flamewars . . .

. . . are almost always initiated by a small number of drug-obsessed libertarians who spend every waking minute scouring the Internet for some isolated news story or "High Times" editorial, posting it front page and then pinging a melee into existence. The best thing to do is to wholly ignore these one-trick ponies (one-bong blowhards?), which I decided to do a few days ago.

Your changes are an improvement. The best solution, IMO, would be to relegate the whole dope-wars babble and squawk to a backroom from the get-go.

58 posted on 02/13/2003 6:56:20 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: maui_hawaii
Nah.... Poor AM is like Sister Mary Elephant...

Class... Class... CLASS.... SHUT UP!!!!! Thank you.

59 posted on 02/13/2003 6:56:35 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Would you care to go to the smokeyback room and discuss it?
60 posted on 02/13/2003 6:56:42 AM PST by CWOJackson
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